04-22-2025, 10:04 AM
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
Atlanta Hawks fire Landry Fields as GM
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
04-22-2025, 11:27 AM
Hey, if we are going to have Andrew Luck as the football GM, could we hire Fields to be our basketball GM?
Hey, if we are going to have Andrew Luck as the football GM, could we hire Fields to be our basketball GM?
04-22-2025, 12:04 PM
Fields had a tough job. Atlanta has more limited resources than some of the big market teams like LA and GS, plus Fields came into his role in December 2022, after the team had a disastrous off-season. The team was in salary dump mode, and Fields always stood to take some blame for the predictable dip in performance. Things turned out as I expected, but I don't think Fields did a bad job with the lot he was given.
Also, if the organization was thinking of making a change, then this off-season is a good time to do it. They have several expiring contracts that they could parlay into a new piece to help with the somewhat rebuilt roster. It's a good thing to let the new President of Operations make the choice that might significantly influence the team's success in the near future.
Also, if the organization was thinking of making a change, then this off-season is a good time to do it. They have several expiring contracts that they could parlay into a new piece to help with the somewhat rebuilt roster. It's a good thing to let the new President of Operations make the choice that might significantly influence the team's success in the near future.
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Fields had a tough job. Atlanta has more limited resources than some of the big market teams like LA and GS, plus Fields came into his role in December 2022, after the team had a disastrous off-season. The team was in salary dump mode, and Fields always stood to take some blame for the predictable dip in performance. Things turned out as I expected, but I don't think Fields did a bad job with the lot he was given.
Also, if the organization was thinking of making a change, then this off-season is a good time to do it. They have several expiring contracts that they could parlay into a new piece to help with the somewhat rebuilt roster. It's a good thing to let the new President of Operations make the choice that might significantly influence the team's success in the near future.
Also, if the organization was thinking of making a change, then this off-season is a good time to do it. They have several expiring contracts that they could parlay into a new piece to help with the somewhat rebuilt roster. It's a good thing to let the new President of Operations make the choice that might significantly influence the team's success in the near future.
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04-22-2025, 01:51 PM
(04-22-2025, 12:04 PM)TrumpCard Wrote: Fields had a tough job. Atlanta has more limited resources than some of the big market teams like LA and GS, plus Fields came into his role in December 2022, after the team had a disastrous off-season. The team was in salary dump mode, and Fields always stood to take some blame for the predictable dip in performance. Things turned out as I expected, but I don't think Fields did a bad job with the lot he was given.
Also, if the organization was thinking of making a change, then this off-season is a good time to do it. They have several expiring contracts that they could parlay into a new piece to help with the somewhat rebuilt roster. It's a good thing to let the new President of Operations make the choice that might significantly influence the team's success in the near future.
I would quibble on the resources part of the equation. NBA has a functional hard cap in the second apron era. No team is truly limited by their ability to spend on players unless the owner is extremely cheap.
Atlanta's issues stemmed from the fact they had a roster built around Trey young, who while a great offensive player, limits your ceiling through his style of play and lack of defense.
Field's moves overall have seemed quite good to me.
He drafted Risacher with the top pick in a terrible draft, and he has looked like a good pick so far.
Signed Jalen Johson to an extension that looked like an absolute steal prior to Johnson's injury this year, and still will be a very high value contract.
He absolutely Fleeced the Pelicans in trading Murray for 2 FRPs and Dyson Daniels plus filler. Daniels alone looks like a much better player.
In 2023 he drafted Bufkin at 15, who hasn't looked great so far but has mostly just been injured.
Traded Deandre hunter for a limited return, though i didn't mind this deal as i thought he was over-rated/over priced in any case.
(04-22-2025, 12:04 PM)TrumpCard Wrote: Fields had a tough job. Atlanta has more limited resources than some of the big market teams like LA and GS, plus Fields came into his role in December 2022, after the team had a disastrous off-season. The team was in salary dump mode, and Fields always stood to take some blame for the predictable dip in performance. Things turned out as I expected, but I don't think Fields did a bad job with the lot he was given.
Also, if the organization was thinking of making a change, then this off-season is a good time to do it. They have several expiring contracts that they could parlay into a new piece to help with the somewhat rebuilt roster. It's a good thing to let the new President of Operations make the choice that might significantly influence the team's success in the near future.
I would quibble on the resources part of the equation. NBA has a functional hard cap in the second apron era. No team is truly limited by their ability to spend on players unless the owner is extremely cheap.
Atlanta's issues stemmed from the fact they had a roster built around Trey young, who while a great offensive player, limits your ceiling through his style of play and lack of defense.
Field's moves overall have seemed quite good to me.
He drafted Risacher with the top pick in a terrible draft, and he has looked like a good pick so far.
Signed Jalen Johson to an extension that looked like an absolute steal prior to Johnson's injury this year, and still will be a very high value contract.
He absolutely Fleeced the Pelicans in trading Murray for 2 FRPs and Dyson Daniels plus filler. Daniels alone looks like a much better player.
In 2023 he drafted Bufkin at 15, who hasn't looked great so far but has mostly just been injured.
Traded Deandre hunter for a limited return, though i didn't mind this deal as i thought he was over-rated/over priced in any case.
04-22-2025, 05:17 PM
(04-22-2025, 01:51 PM)gocard14 Wrote:(04-22-2025, 12:04 PM)TrumpCard Wrote: Fields had a tough job. Atlanta has more limited resources than some of the big market teams like LA and GS, plus Fields came into his role in December 2022, after the team had a disastrous off-season. The team was in salary dump mode, and Fields always stood to take some blame for the predictable dip in performance. Things turned out as I expected, but I don't think Fields did a bad job with the lot he was given.
Also, if the organization was thinking of making a change, then this off-season is a good time to do it. They have several expiring contracts that they could parlay into a new piece to help with the somewhat rebuilt roster. It's a good thing to let the new President of Operations make the choice that might significantly influence the team's success in the near future.
I would quibble on the resources part of the equation. NBA has a functional hard cap in the second apron era. No team is truly limited by their ability to spend on players unless the owner is extremely cheap.
Atlanta's issues stemmed from the fact they had a roster built around Trey young, who while a great offensive player, limits your ceiling through his style of play and lack of defense.
. . . .
Traded Deandre hunter for a limited return, though i didn't mind this deal as i thought he was over-rated/over priced in any case.
I don't know the reason that the Hawks wanted to dump salary, but it seems clear that was the case. Otherwise, why would they have made the trades to unload Murray and Hunter, in both cases taking an expiring contract in return? If you accept that Fields had a mandate to dump salary, then his trades look even better than they otherwise would. The most suspect trade looks like the one for Terrence Mann. The Clippers have always said he has tons of potential, but that potential has never materialized. The rumor mill has always been full of trades involving him.
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(04-22-2025, 01:51 PM)gocard14 Wrote:(04-22-2025, 12:04 PM)TrumpCard Wrote: Fields had a tough job. Atlanta has more limited resources than some of the big market teams like LA and GS, plus Fields came into his role in December 2022, after the team had a disastrous off-season. The team was in salary dump mode, and Fields always stood to take some blame for the predictable dip in performance. Things turned out as I expected, but I don't think Fields did a bad job with the lot he was given.
Also, if the organization was thinking of making a change, then this off-season is a good time to do it. They have several expiring contracts that they could parlay into a new piece to help with the somewhat rebuilt roster. It's a good thing to let the new President of Operations make the choice that might significantly influence the team's success in the near future.
I would quibble on the resources part of the equation. NBA has a functional hard cap in the second apron era. No team is truly limited by their ability to spend on players unless the owner is extremely cheap.
Atlanta's issues stemmed from the fact they had a roster built around Trey young, who while a great offensive player, limits your ceiling through his style of play and lack of defense.
. . . .
Traded Deandre hunter for a limited return, though i didn't mind this deal as i thought he was over-rated/over priced in any case.
I don't know the reason that the Hawks wanted to dump salary, but it seems clear that was the case. Otherwise, why would they have made the trades to unload Murray and Hunter, in both cases taking an expiring contract in return? If you accept that Fields had a mandate to dump salary, then his trades look even better than they otherwise would. The most suspect trade looks like the one for Terrence Mann. The Clippers have always said he has tons of potential, but that potential has never materialized. The rumor mill has always been full of trades involving him.
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