Outside Topic West Coast Conference (WCC) news
04-14-2026, 02:55 PM
(04-14-2026, 02:04 PM)TonyLima Wrote: Looking more attractive every day
not so sure about that
Current Members
Gonzaga (leaving July 1, 2026)
LMU
UOP
Pepperdine
University of Portland
Saint Mary's
USD
USF
SCU
Seattle
Future Members
Denver
UCSB
UCSD
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
(04-14-2026, 02:04 PM)TonyLima Wrote: Looking more attractive every day
not so sure about that
Current Members
Gonzaga (leaving July 1, 2026)
LMU
UOP
Pepperdine
University of Portland
Saint Mary's
USD
USF
SCU
Seattle
Future Members
Denver
UCSB
UCSD
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
04-14-2026, 03:30 PM
(04-14-2026, 03:25 PM)BobK Wrote: Looking good for what ? Lower level athletes ?
Less travel. Less of an impact on academics. Ability to develop geographic rivalries. Yeah, it sucks that there is no conference that is a) west coast based, b) has high level athletics and c) has a large share of AAU institutions so we kind of have to pick what we prioritize. Given the direction of travel, where you have to assume even the ACC’s days are numbered and the realization that we probably are not attractive enough to be one of the “haves” in the next round of reorganization when it will be the BigTen and SEC power conferences, maybe its better to start the transition process to less of an emphasis on big time athletics now rather than to string this along as long as we can.
BC
(04-14-2026, 03:25 PM)BobK Wrote: Looking good for what ? Lower level athletes ?
Less travel. Less of an impact on academics. Ability to develop geographic rivalries. Yeah, it sucks that there is no conference that is a) west coast based, b) has high level athletics and c) has a large share of AAU institutions so we kind of have to pick what we prioritize. Given the direction of travel, where you have to assume even the ACC’s days are numbered and the realization that we probably are not attractive enough to be one of the “haves” in the next round of reorganization when it will be the BigTen and SEC power conferences, maybe its better to start the transition process to less of an emphasis on big time athletics now rather than to string this along as long as we can.
BC
04-14-2026, 03:40 PM
(04-14-2026, 03:30 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(04-14-2026, 03:25 PM)BobK Wrote: Looking good for what ? Lower level athletes ?
Less travel. Less of an impact on academics. Ability to develop geographic rivalries. Yeah, it sucks that there is no conference that is a) west coast based, b) has high level athletics and c) has a large share of AAU institutions so we kind of have to pick what we prioritize. Given the direction of travel, where you have to assume even the ACC’s days are numbered and the realization that we probably are not attractive enough to be one of the “haves” in the next round of reorganization when it will be the BigTen and SEC power conferences, maybe its better to start the transition process to less of an emphasis on big time athletics now rather than to string this along as long as we can.
BC
This sounds right to me. I think all the middies are interested in less travel, for a variety of reasons. And it makes some sense. SCU used to play UCSB all the time, 27 times between 1964 and 2012, and they played Denver a handful of times over the years. Never played UC-San Diego, though USD is in-league and they've played San Diego State.
Gonzaga, Washington State and Oregon State are leaving for the new Pac-12. Good for them, I hope it works out.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
(04-14-2026, 03:30 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(04-14-2026, 03:25 PM)BobK Wrote: Looking good for what ? Lower level athletes ?
Less travel. Less of an impact on academics. Ability to develop geographic rivalries. Yeah, it sucks that there is no conference that is a) west coast based, b) has high level athletics and c) has a large share of AAU institutions so we kind of have to pick what we prioritize. Given the direction of travel, where you have to assume even the ACC’s days are numbered and the realization that we probably are not attractive enough to be one of the “haves” in the next round of reorganization when it will be the BigTen and SEC power conferences, maybe its better to start the transition process to less of an emphasis on big time athletics now rather than to string this along as long as we can.
BC
This sounds right to me. I think all the middies are interested in less travel, for a variety of reasons. And it makes some sense. SCU used to play UCSB all the time, 27 times between 1964 and 2012, and they played Denver a handful of times over the years. Never played UC-San Diego, though USD is in-league and they've played San Diego State.
Gonzaga, Washington State and Oregon State are leaving for the new Pac-12. Good for them, I hope it works out.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
04-14-2026, 03:56 PM
If we thought our transfer portal woes were bad already, imagine the rush to the exits upon announcing a move to the WCC.
Though, with UC San Diego and UC Santa Barbara now part of their league I hate the idea a bit less than moving to the new Pac-12 or what's left of the Big West.
So here are a few questions:
1. Would we still move in tandem with UC Berkeley?
2. Where would we put the football team? Would we try football independence?
3. Would we be an attractive enough centerpiece to create an entirely new western league, picking and choosing our new conference-mates out of the pool of P12, WCC, BWC, and MWC schools? If so, who would we convince to join us?
4. If a return to the west is inevitable, does a WCC landing spot (or any other option) have an expiration date? Does it make sense to jump before we absolutely have to?
Though, with UC San Diego and UC Santa Barbara now part of their league I hate the idea a bit less than moving to the new Pac-12 or what's left of the Big West.
So here are a few questions:
1. Would we still move in tandem with UC Berkeley?
2. Where would we put the football team? Would we try football independence?
3. Would we be an attractive enough centerpiece to create an entirely new western league, picking and choosing our new conference-mates out of the pool of P12, WCC, BWC, and MWC schools? If so, who would we convince to join us?
4. If a return to the west is inevitable, does a WCC landing spot (or any other option) have an expiration date? Does it make sense to jump before we absolutely have to?
If we thought our transfer portal woes were bad already, imagine the rush to the exits upon announcing a move to the WCC.
Though, with UC San Diego and UC Santa Barbara now part of their league I hate the idea a bit less than moving to the new Pac-12 or what's left of the Big West.
So here are a few questions:
1. Would we still move in tandem with UC Berkeley?
2. Where would we put the football team? Would we try football independence?
3. Would we be an attractive enough centerpiece to create an entirely new western league, picking and choosing our new conference-mates out of the pool of P12, WCC, BWC, and MWC schools? If so, who would we convince to join us?
4. If a return to the west is inevitable, does a WCC landing spot (or any other option) have an expiration date? Does it make sense to jump before we absolutely have to?
Though, with UC San Diego and UC Santa Barbara now part of their league I hate the idea a bit less than moving to the new Pac-12 or what's left of the Big West.
So here are a few questions:
1. Would we still move in tandem with UC Berkeley?
2. Where would we put the football team? Would we try football independence?
3. Would we be an attractive enough centerpiece to create an entirely new western league, picking and choosing our new conference-mates out of the pool of P12, WCC, BWC, and MWC schools? If so, who would we convince to join us?
4. If a return to the west is inevitable, does a WCC landing spot (or any other option) have an expiration date? Does it make sense to jump before we absolutely have to?
04-14-2026, 04:38 PM
(04-14-2026, 03:40 PM)Mick Wrote: Gonzaga, Washington State and Oregon State are leaving for the new Pac-12. Good for them, I hope it works out.
WSU and OSU were already in the PAC-12. I think they just parked their non-football sports in the WCC until they reconstituted the PAC-12, but I don’t think they ever were really in the WCC.
BC
(04-14-2026, 03:40 PM)Mick Wrote: Gonzaga, Washington State and Oregon State are leaving for the new Pac-12. Good for them, I hope it works out.
WSU and OSU were already in the PAC-12. I think they just parked their non-football sports in the WCC until they reconstituted the PAC-12, but I don’t think they ever were really in the WCC.
BC
(04-14-2026, 02:04 PM)TonyLima Wrote: Looking more attractive every day
Hard pass. I'd rather be in the ACC with all the travel than a low tier mid major. Look at Oregon State and Washington State. We joined the ACC to avoid that situation.
(04-14-2026, 02:04 PM)TonyLima Wrote: Looking more attractive every day
Hard pass. I'd rather be in the ACC with all the travel than a low tier mid major. Look at Oregon State and Washington State. We joined the ACC to avoid that situation.
04-14-2026, 06:40 PM
There is NIL and the portal in the WCC too. Moving to the WCC solves nothing other than shorter road trips in the same time zone, which is indeed a big thing. Long-term I can see the money maker (football) being national and everyone takes the non-revenue sports (even if that is often most of the sports) back into regional conferences.
This is a shorter thread than the WBB and WWP threads so I'll put my money thoughts here. (We are only missing WWE, WWF, WTA, WFL...news threads.)
Paye, the administration, a whole host of people associated with Stanford sports simply overvalued/overvalue a Stanford degree compared to cash. The prospective athletes aren't stupid. They understand present worth and what starting off with hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars means compared to a nebulous "40-year decision". Everyone understands the cash value of....cash.
My old professors at Stanford have largely retired, so I'm no longer occasionally on campus guest lecturing about the professional unicorns and rainbows that await everyone. Rather, I was over in Berkeley this morning with an actual rainbow picture taken on my phone from the trailer deck during levee construction. Very enjoyable 90-minute class and (god they really are) kids stayed after in a circle of chairs to ask all these earnest questions. It was fun and walking back down the hill to the BART station with some old Blues on my staff who sat in (and who aren't all that old), back out of academia into the salt mine. What brought you to California anyway questions came up. Wow, hadn't thought about that in a long time.
At the time, I was deciding between Cambridge, MA; Berkeley; and Stanford. The timing of spring break was such that I could visit Boston or SF but not both and I had no money anyway, so might need to do this blind. My dad hated his time at MIT and I could visit two schools on one trip, so he paid roundtrip fare from ATL to SFO and flew west right after watching Tech lose a close one to Georgetown in the East Regional Final, four years after they won four games. The whole season. I was nearly dead certain that Berkeley was the place for me. Had plenty of blue and gold gear, was always a public school guy, a couple of professors raved about their alma mater, Berkeley nightlife, quick trip into the City, etc, etc. A little worried about going from quarters to semesters because I'd only have two months of summer earnings, and as it turned out, I eventually left Atlanta with $75 in my account; just enough to fill my dad's Audi 4000 turbo tank with gas the two times needed, because even at 56 mpg with the A/C off, Atlanta to Denver was more uphill than down.
Anyway, Dad always had a fondness for the Bay Area, so he brought my younger sister and we met up in Millbrae for a family reunion of sorts. I think he really didn't want to see me at MIT and their offer was a full ride for two years in a discipline that didn't excite me honestly. Berkeley offered admission. You're welcome. The price tag was $12,000 I didn't have. My dad's thoughts were 'I guess if I could live through MIT, you could too.' Expecting nothing from Stanford, we drove down Mission and El Camino one light at a time all they way from downtown SF where we stayed so Dad could get his Peking Duck at wherever restaurant that was he remembered. It's a free trip, so you do you Dad. Wild now to think of that strip is basically where I've spent my adult life. Anyway I met with some (at the time) very young professors in the department I wanted. Great tour of campus, which was completely dead because of Spring Break and probably why they had all this time. Wined and dined at the Faculty Club even. Hard not to be impressed during perfect late March weather. And out comes an offer letter for a full fellowship and a teaching stipend. I want to say it was all worth $17,000 or thereabouts and I'd be done in nine months. My dad said do what you want. (Well, of course I'll do what I want, Dad, you ain't payin'.) I think my sister took one look at the letter and said I'm an effing idiot if I don't take that offer. Strong words from a 14 year old, but she was never wrong about anything. Although she eventually married a Berkeley grad. (j/k - great guy)
There is no moral to this story other than I understand that money trumps a lot of decision making at any age, let alone one's salad days. I went to Stanford rather than what I thought was a better fit across the Bay all for the lack of $12,000. Using federal COLA statistics for the SF-Oak-Hayward CPI, that is the equivalent to $40,000 today. So if someone is offered an extra six or seven figures to 'forego that prestigious Stanford degree,' I completely understand and agree with them.
And of course I hooked up with a Berkeley person too. Must be the DNA.
This is a shorter thread than the WBB and WWP threads so I'll put my money thoughts here. (We are only missing WWE, WWF, WTA, WFL...news threads.)
Paye, the administration, a whole host of people associated with Stanford sports simply overvalued/overvalue a Stanford degree compared to cash. The prospective athletes aren't stupid. They understand present worth and what starting off with hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars means compared to a nebulous "40-year decision". Everyone understands the cash value of....cash.
My old professors at Stanford have largely retired, so I'm no longer occasionally on campus guest lecturing about the professional unicorns and rainbows that await everyone. Rather, I was over in Berkeley this morning with an actual rainbow picture taken on my phone from the trailer deck during levee construction. Very enjoyable 90-minute class and (god they really are) kids stayed after in a circle of chairs to ask all these earnest questions. It was fun and walking back down the hill to the BART station with some old Blues on my staff who sat in (and who aren't all that old), back out of academia into the salt mine. What brought you to California anyway questions came up. Wow, hadn't thought about that in a long time.
At the time, I was deciding between Cambridge, MA; Berkeley; and Stanford. The timing of spring break was such that I could visit Boston or SF but not both and I had no money anyway, so might need to do this blind. My dad hated his time at MIT and I could visit two schools on one trip, so he paid roundtrip fare from ATL to SFO and flew west right after watching Tech lose a close one to Georgetown in the East Regional Final, four years after they won four games. The whole season. I was nearly dead certain that Berkeley was the place for me. Had plenty of blue and gold gear, was always a public school guy, a couple of professors raved about their alma mater, Berkeley nightlife, quick trip into the City, etc, etc. A little worried about going from quarters to semesters because I'd only have two months of summer earnings, and as it turned out, I eventually left Atlanta with $75 in my account; just enough to fill my dad's Audi 4000 turbo tank with gas the two times needed, because even at 56 mpg with the A/C off, Atlanta to Denver was more uphill than down.
Anyway, Dad always had a fondness for the Bay Area, so he brought my younger sister and we met up in Millbrae for a family reunion of sorts. I think he really didn't want to see me at MIT and their offer was a full ride for two years in a discipline that didn't excite me honestly. Berkeley offered admission. You're welcome. The price tag was $12,000 I didn't have. My dad's thoughts were 'I guess if I could live through MIT, you could too.' Expecting nothing from Stanford, we drove down Mission and El Camino one light at a time all they way from downtown SF where we stayed so Dad could get his Peking Duck at wherever restaurant that was he remembered. It's a free trip, so you do you Dad. Wild now to think of that strip is basically where I've spent my adult life. Anyway I met with some (at the time) very young professors in the department I wanted. Great tour of campus, which was completely dead because of Spring Break and probably why they had all this time. Wined and dined at the Faculty Club even. Hard not to be impressed during perfect late March weather. And out comes an offer letter for a full fellowship and a teaching stipend. I want to say it was all worth $17,000 or thereabouts and I'd be done in nine months. My dad said do what you want. (Well, of course I'll do what I want, Dad, you ain't payin'.) I think my sister took one look at the letter and said I'm an effing idiot if I don't take that offer. Strong words from a 14 year old, but she was never wrong about anything. Although she eventually married a Berkeley grad. (j/k - great guy)
There is no moral to this story other than I understand that money trumps a lot of decision making at any age, let alone one's salad days. I went to Stanford rather than what I thought was a better fit across the Bay all for the lack of $12,000. Using federal COLA statistics for the SF-Oak-Hayward CPI, that is the equivalent to $40,000 today. So if someone is offered an extra six or seven figures to 'forego that prestigious Stanford degree,' I completely understand and agree with them.
And of course I hooked up with a Berkeley person too. Must be the DNA.
There is NIL and the portal in the WCC too. Moving to the WCC solves nothing other than shorter road trips in the same time zone, which is indeed a big thing. Long-term I can see the money maker (football) being national and everyone takes the non-revenue sports (even if that is often most of the sports) back into regional conferences.
This is a shorter thread than the WBB and WWP threads so I'll put my money thoughts here. (We are only missing WWE, WWF, WTA, WFL...news threads.)
Paye, the administration, a whole host of people associated with Stanford sports simply overvalued/overvalue a Stanford degree compared to cash. The prospective athletes aren't stupid. They understand present worth and what starting off with hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars means compared to a nebulous "40-year decision". Everyone understands the cash value of....cash.
My old professors at Stanford have largely retired, so I'm no longer occasionally on campus guest lecturing about the professional unicorns and rainbows that await everyone. Rather, I was over in Berkeley this morning with an actual rainbow picture taken on my phone from the trailer deck during levee construction. Very enjoyable 90-minute class and (god they really are) kids stayed after in a circle of chairs to ask all these earnest questions. It was fun and walking back down the hill to the BART station with some old Blues on my staff who sat in (and who aren't all that old), back out of academia into the salt mine. What brought you to California anyway questions came up. Wow, hadn't thought about that in a long time.
At the time, I was deciding between Cambridge, MA; Berkeley; and Stanford. The timing of spring break was such that I could visit Boston or SF but not both and I had no money anyway, so might need to do this blind. My dad hated his time at MIT and I could visit two schools on one trip, so he paid roundtrip fare from ATL to SFO and flew west right after watching Tech lose a close one to Georgetown in the East Regional Final, four years after they won four games. The whole season. I was nearly dead certain that Berkeley was the place for me. Had plenty of blue and gold gear, was always a public school guy, a couple of professors raved about their alma mater, Berkeley nightlife, quick trip into the City, etc, etc. A little worried about going from quarters to semesters because I'd only have two months of summer earnings, and as it turned out, I eventually left Atlanta with $75 in my account; just enough to fill my dad's Audi 4000 turbo tank with gas the two times needed, because even at 56 mpg with the A/C off, Atlanta to Denver was more uphill than down.
Anyway, Dad always had a fondness for the Bay Area, so he brought my younger sister and we met up in Millbrae for a family reunion of sorts. I think he really didn't want to see me at MIT and their offer was a full ride for two years in a discipline that didn't excite me honestly. Berkeley offered admission. You're welcome. The price tag was $12,000 I didn't have. My dad's thoughts were 'I guess if I could live through MIT, you could too.' Expecting nothing from Stanford, we drove down Mission and El Camino one light at a time all they way from downtown SF where we stayed so Dad could get his Peking Duck at wherever restaurant that was he remembered. It's a free trip, so you do you Dad. Wild now to think of that strip is basically where I've spent my adult life. Anyway I met with some (at the time) very young professors in the department I wanted. Great tour of campus, which was completely dead because of Spring Break and probably why they had all this time. Wined and dined at the Faculty Club even. Hard not to be impressed during perfect late March weather. And out comes an offer letter for a full fellowship and a teaching stipend. I want to say it was all worth $17,000 or thereabouts and I'd be done in nine months. My dad said do what you want. (Well, of course I'll do what I want, Dad, you ain't payin'.) I think my sister took one look at the letter and said I'm an effing idiot if I don't take that offer. Strong words from a 14 year old, but she was never wrong about anything. Although she eventually married a Berkeley grad. (j/k - great guy)
There is no moral to this story other than I understand that money trumps a lot of decision making at any age, let alone one's salad days. I went to Stanford rather than what I thought was a better fit across the Bay all for the lack of $12,000. Using federal COLA statistics for the SF-Oak-Hayward CPI, that is the equivalent to $40,000 today. So if someone is offered an extra six or seven figures to 'forego that prestigious Stanford degree,' I completely understand and agree with them.
And of course I hooked up with a Berkeley person too. Must be the DNA.
This is a shorter thread than the WBB and WWP threads so I'll put my money thoughts here. (We are only missing WWE, WWF, WTA, WFL...news threads.)
Paye, the administration, a whole host of people associated with Stanford sports simply overvalued/overvalue a Stanford degree compared to cash. The prospective athletes aren't stupid. They understand present worth and what starting off with hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars means compared to a nebulous "40-year decision". Everyone understands the cash value of....cash.
My old professors at Stanford have largely retired, so I'm no longer occasionally on campus guest lecturing about the professional unicorns and rainbows that await everyone. Rather, I was over in Berkeley this morning with an actual rainbow picture taken on my phone from the trailer deck during levee construction. Very enjoyable 90-minute class and (god they really are) kids stayed after in a circle of chairs to ask all these earnest questions. It was fun and walking back down the hill to the BART station with some old Blues on my staff who sat in (and who aren't all that old), back out of academia into the salt mine. What brought you to California anyway questions came up. Wow, hadn't thought about that in a long time.
At the time, I was deciding between Cambridge, MA; Berkeley; and Stanford. The timing of spring break was such that I could visit Boston or SF but not both and I had no money anyway, so might need to do this blind. My dad hated his time at MIT and I could visit two schools on one trip, so he paid roundtrip fare from ATL to SFO and flew west right after watching Tech lose a close one to Georgetown in the East Regional Final, four years after they won four games. The whole season. I was nearly dead certain that Berkeley was the place for me. Had plenty of blue and gold gear, was always a public school guy, a couple of professors raved about their alma mater, Berkeley nightlife, quick trip into the City, etc, etc. A little worried about going from quarters to semesters because I'd only have two months of summer earnings, and as it turned out, I eventually left Atlanta with $75 in my account; just enough to fill my dad's Audi 4000 turbo tank with gas the two times needed, because even at 56 mpg with the A/C off, Atlanta to Denver was more uphill than down.
Anyway, Dad always had a fondness for the Bay Area, so he brought my younger sister and we met up in Millbrae for a family reunion of sorts. I think he really didn't want to see me at MIT and their offer was a full ride for two years in a discipline that didn't excite me honestly. Berkeley offered admission. You're welcome. The price tag was $12,000 I didn't have. My dad's thoughts were 'I guess if I could live through MIT, you could too.' Expecting nothing from Stanford, we drove down Mission and El Camino one light at a time all they way from downtown SF where we stayed so Dad could get his Peking Duck at wherever restaurant that was he remembered. It's a free trip, so you do you Dad. Wild now to think of that strip is basically where I've spent my adult life. Anyway I met with some (at the time) very young professors in the department I wanted. Great tour of campus, which was completely dead because of Spring Break and probably why they had all this time. Wined and dined at the Faculty Club even. Hard not to be impressed during perfect late March weather. And out comes an offer letter for a full fellowship and a teaching stipend. I want to say it was all worth $17,000 or thereabouts and I'd be done in nine months. My dad said do what you want. (Well, of course I'll do what I want, Dad, you ain't payin'.) I think my sister took one look at the letter and said I'm an effing idiot if I don't take that offer. Strong words from a 14 year old, but she was never wrong about anything. Although she eventually married a Berkeley grad. (j/k - great guy)
There is no moral to this story other than I understand that money trumps a lot of decision making at any age, let alone one's salad days. I went to Stanford rather than what I thought was a better fit across the Bay all for the lack of $12,000. Using federal COLA statistics for the SF-Oak-Hayward CPI, that is the equivalent to $40,000 today. So if someone is offered an extra six or seven figures to 'forego that prestigious Stanford degree,' I completely understand and agree with them.
And of course I hooked up with a Berkeley person too. Must be the DNA.
The WCC supports the following sports so the rest of Stanford's teams would be left to find a home (and yes some already play outside the ACC)
Men's
Women's
this is where I think we end up in +/-5 years. Football get separated from the other sports. Men's and women's basketball my also get cleaved off but it will be a different (and larger) collection of universities from football. All the other sports go back to conferences that make geographic sense.
Men's
Women's
(04-14-2026, 06:40 PM)jacket3ree Wrote: There is NIL and the portal in the WCC too. Moving to the WCC solves nothing other than shorter road trips in the same time zone, which is indeed a big thing. Long-term I can see the money maker (football) being national and everyone takes the non-revenue sports (even if that is often most of the sports) back into regional conferences.
this is where I think we end up in +/-5 years. Football get separated from the other sports. Men's and women's basketball my also get cleaved off but it will be a different (and larger) collection of universities from football. All the other sports go back to conferences that make geographic sense.
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
The WCC supports the following sports so the rest of Stanford's teams would be left to find a home (and yes some already play outside the ACC)
Men's
Women's
this is where I think we end up in +/-5 years. Football get separated from the other sports. Men's and women's basketball my also get cleaved off but it will be a different (and larger) collection of universities from football. All the other sports go back to conferences that make geographic sense.
Men's
Women's
(04-14-2026, 06:40 PM)jacket3ree Wrote: There is NIL and the portal in the WCC too. Moving to the WCC solves nothing other than shorter road trips in the same time zone, which is indeed a big thing. Long-term I can see the money maker (football) being national and everyone takes the non-revenue sports (even if that is often most of the sports) back into regional conferences.
this is where I think we end up in +/-5 years. Football get separated from the other sports. Men's and women's basketball my also get cleaved off but it will be a different (and larger) collection of universities from football. All the other sports go back to conferences that make geographic sense.
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
04-14-2026, 07:22 PM
jack3tree… I’m not an economist, but I think the term is “revealed preference”. Even before NIL and transfers, student athletes made decisions to go to “not Stanford” all the time; the degree is valuable, and certainly convinced some kids came here because of it, but we’ve always known there was a finite sum of money that would convince many athletes to forgo their degree; just ask John McEnroe, Tiger Woods, and Christian McCaffrey (I don’t know if any of them have subsequently come back).
BC
BC
jack3tree… I’m not an economist, but I think the term is “revealed preference”. Even before NIL and transfers, student athletes made decisions to go to “not Stanford” all the time; the degree is valuable, and certainly convinced some kids came here because of it, but we’ve always known there was a finite sum of money that would convince many athletes to forgo their degree; just ask John McEnroe, Tiger Woods, and Christian McCaffrey (I don’t know if any of them have subsequently come back).
BC
BC
04-14-2026, 09:27 PM
Stanford's short-term goal is to win in the ACC in order to be attractive in the next realignment of major schools. The day of reckoning for TV deals is coming in 3-5 years.
04-15-2026, 02:46 PM
I had to change the title of this thread. I thought WCC stood for Women's Cross Country.
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
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