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[quote author=winflop link=topic=12300.msg121504#msg121504 date=1435464190]

I see about four starters on this list - Lillard, Westbrook, Ellis, and Irving - and I would argue that ALL of them are the guys bringing the ball up the floor and running the offense.  But there may be one or two more on the list.

Bradley, Beverley and Walker averaged over 30 minutes per game last year. Thomas and Brooks were sixth men. And of course some of these guys were quite important in their day (Terry, Gordon) and have simply grown older.

Nevertheless -- to mix sporting metaphors -- you've moved the goalposts considerably. At first you insisted that 6'3"-and-under scoring guards don't have careers.  Now you're tacking on more subclauses than a legislative aide. What's odd about this scrambling is that it's totally unnecessary: Randle just doesn't have the skills necessary, and there's no need to make sweeping generalizations about the State of Basketball. Just admit you were wrong and move on.
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I did backtrack and said Randle COULD have a career as a backup.  That's the only goalpost I moved.  And I did admit that I didn't know some of the players you mentioned.


But guys who don't play any more/played in a different age, guys who run the offense (i.e., aren't an off-guard), and guys who USED to start but don't anymore really don't counter what I stated.


I do think Randle has the scoring skills to be an NBA off-guard, but he's just not tall enough.  He is tall enough to be a PG, but he lacks the skills for that position.

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[quote author=winflop link=topic=12300.msg121504#msg121504 date=1435464190]

I see about four starters on this list - Lillard, Westbrook, Ellis, and Irving - and I would argue that ALL of them are the guys bringing the ball up the floor and running the offense.  But there may be one or two more on the list.

Bradley, Beverley and Walker averaged over 30 minutes per game last year. Thomas and Brooks were sixth men. And of course some of these guys were quite important in their day (Terry, Gordon) and have simply grown older.

Nevertheless -- to mix sporting metaphors -- you've moved the goalposts considerably. At first you insisted that 6'3"-and-under scoring guards don't have careers.  Now you're tacking on more subclauses than a legislative aide. What's odd about this scrambling is that it's totally unnecessary: Randle just doesn't have the skills necessary, and there's no need to make sweeping generalizations about the State of Basketball. Just admit you were wrong and move on.
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I did backtrack and said Randle COULD have a career as a backup.  That's the only goalpost I moved.  And I did admit that I didn't know some of the players you mentioned.


But guys who don't play any more/played in a different age, guys who run the offense (i.e., aren't an off-guard), and guys who USED to start but don't anymore really don't counter what I stated.


I do think Randle has the scoring skills to be an NBA off-guard, but he's just not tall enough.  He is tall enough to be a PG, but he lacks the skills for that position.