[NDIrish]

[quote author=NDIrish link=topic=13731.msg143479#msg143479 date=1448388202]
is that accurate concerning their SOS?  not trying to be rude, just seriously asking if that is something you track or are you assuming?  I agree recruiting is difficult given academic standards, but to touch on my previous point, is he getting better or worse the farther he gets away from harbaugh?  Do you honestly see him maintaining that for 10 years, are the recruits you are getting in just as highly rated as what he had when he took over, if the answer is yes, then obviously shout to keep him, if not, then i would be unsure.

Yep.  Based on the Sagarin rankings for the last few years (back to 2011), our worst SoS was 36 in 2011.  Our best was the 2013 season, where we had 1 (the hardest).  So, top 1/3 consistently in Shaw's period, and actually only one other outside the top 25 (27 last season).

[quote author=NDIrish link=topic=13731.msg143479#msg143479 date=1448388202]I agree recruiting is difficult given academic standards, but to touch on my previous point, is he getting better or worse the farther he gets away from harbaugh?  Do you honestly see him maintaining that for 10 years, are the recruits you are getting in just as highly rated as what he had when he took over, if the answer is yes, then obviously shout to keep him, if not, then i would be unsure.

This upcoming recruiting class will probably be our highest ranked in who knows how long.  Now maybe that's just a one-year blip, but there certainly isn't anything to warrant a drop-off.
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2014 and 2015 were both top 25 classes, 2012 was top 10, this year we're currently top-10 as well (these are from 247).  2013 we had a tiny class so it was ranked pretty low, but I think was still top-25 on average star rating.  So I think it's safe to say Shaw can consistently recruit a top-25 rated class or better.  2012 was our highest ranking class ever, this one will come close.  Harbaugh did do better based on recruiting rankings, although he did find a lot of unheralded stars.
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Well it doesn't look like this game is going to get any easier the next few years, lol 

[NDIrish]

[quote author=NDIrish link=topic=13731.msg143479#msg143479 date=1448388202]
is that accurate concerning their SOS?  not trying to be rude, just seriously asking if that is something you track or are you assuming?  I agree recruiting is difficult given academic standards, but to touch on my previous point, is he getting better or worse the farther he gets away from harbaugh?  Do you honestly see him maintaining that for 10 years, are the recruits you are getting in just as highly rated as what he had when he took over, if the answer is yes, then obviously shout to keep him, if not, then i would be unsure.

Yep.  Based on the Sagarin rankings for the last few years (back to 2011), our worst SoS was 36 in 2011.  Our best was the 2013 season, where we had 1 (the hardest).  So, top 1/3 consistently in Shaw's period, and actually only one other outside the top 25 (27 last season).

[quote author=NDIrish link=topic=13731.msg143479#msg143479 date=1448388202]I agree recruiting is difficult given academic standards, but to touch on my previous point, is he getting better or worse the farther he gets away from harbaugh?  Do you honestly see him maintaining that for 10 years, are the recruits you are getting in just as highly rated as what he had when he took over, if the answer is yes, then obviously shout to keep him, if not, then i would be unsure.

This upcoming recruiting class will probably be our highest ranked in who knows how long.  Now maybe that's just a one-year blip, but there certainly isn't anything to warrant a drop-off.
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2014 and 2015 were both top 25 classes, 2012 was top 10, this year we're currently top-10 as well (these are from 247).  2013 we had a tiny class so it was ranked pretty low, but I think was still top-25 on average star rating.  So I think it's safe to say Shaw can consistently recruit a top-25 rated class or better.  2012 was our highest ranking class ever, this one will come close.  Harbaugh did do better based on recruiting rankings, although he did find a lot of unheralded stars.
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Well it doesn't look like this game is going to get any easier the next few years, lol