[Mick]

"Effect on the program"? During Elway's time on the team, we were 20-23-1 and when he left we had seven losing seasons in the following eight. I'm not saying that his fault, but it's hard for me to see him getting an award for his effect on the program under those circumstances. If any Stanford player of the second half of the 20th century deserves an award for effect on the program, it's Jim Plunkett, who brought it back from the dead.

The program had five consecutive non-losing seasons prior to Plunkett.  They were 5-5 prior to his arrival, 6-3-1 his first year and 7-2-1 his junior year.  Doesn't sound like it came back from the dead.

[Mick]

"Effect on the program"? During Elway's time on the team, we were 20-23-1 and when he left we had seven losing seasons in the following eight. I'm not saying that his fault, but it's hard for me to see him getting an award for his effect on the program under those circumstances. If any Stanford player of the second half of the 20th century deserves an award for effect on the program, it's Jim Plunkett, who brought it back from the dead.

The program had five consecutive non-losing seasons prior to Plunkett.  They were 5-5 prior to his arrival, 6-3-1 his first year and 7-2-1 his junior year.  Doesn't sound like it came back from the dead.