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I dunno about Shaw's record against teams that play like we play.  Anyone want to correct me with numbers?  I'm thinking of U$C under Orgeron where we got out-Shaw'ed.

Not sure, but against teams that play like we play from the Big 10 in Rose Bowl games: 1-1*

* A win is a win, but the Rose Bowl victory came against a Wisconsin team that was unranked in the AP poll, 8-5 coming into the game and without a QB.  Stanford played as ugly a game offensively (particularly the second half) as I remember during the Shaw era, given the level of competition.  I had a dead-on view from the stands as Hogan overthrew a wide open 6'8" Levine Toilolo in the end zone by at least another 6"8", which would have salted away the game.  Yikes.
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I know not everyone here likes advanced stats, but per FEI that Wisconsin team was probably better than this Iowa team. Definitely had a better defense. Remember that Iowa is 5-1 in one-score games, that Wisconsin team was 2-5 prior to the Rose Bowl. Give both of them .500 records and we're looking at pretty even teams.

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[quote author=fullmetal link=topic=14022.msg147614#msg147614 date=1449879078]
I dunno about Shaw's record against teams that play like we play.  Anyone want to correct me with numbers?  I'm thinking of U$C under Orgeron where we got out-Shaw'ed.

Not sure, but against teams that play like we play from the Big 10 in Rose Bowl games: 1-1*

* A win is a win, but the Rose Bowl victory came against a Wisconsin team that was unranked in the AP poll, 8-5 coming into the game and without a QB.  Stanford played as ugly a game offensively (particularly the second half) as I remember during the Shaw era, given the level of competition.  I had a dead-on view from the stands as Hogan overthrew a wide open 6'8" Levine Toilolo in the end zone by at least another 6"8", which would have salted away the game.  Yikes.
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I know not everyone here likes advanced stats, but per FEI that Wisconsin team was probably better than this Iowa team. Definitely had a better defense. Remember that Iowa is 5-1 in one-score games, that Wisconsin team was 2-5 prior to the Rose Bowl. Give both of them .500 records and we're looking at pretty even teams.