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I guess it's a semantics game as to what "good" means, but I thought the 2013 offense was "good." It was certainly a top-20 offense, which by my reckoning is...good.

Yeah it's semantics, but some numbers ...
total offense yds/gm - 69th
total offense yds/play - 26th
S&P+ - 17th
FEI - 22nd [Football Outsiders]
FEI - 27th [BCFToys]
Pts/gm - 45th
Pts/play - 16th
Pts/drive ? [for some reason BCFToys got rid of this, but my memory is about 30th.]

Now, I'd give much less weight to anything that doesn't account for pace of play, but I'd still look at all those numbers (and I am sure there are several other relevant choices) and average things out to not-quite-top 20.

Perhaps of more concern, the offense was quite capable of collapsing against good defenses that 2011 and 2015 (after game 1.5) did not do. Everyone remembers Michigan State in the Rose Bowl, but that defense was so good it may not be the best measure. But that year Stanford also put up
284 yds/4.6 ypp/ 31 pts [largely on great special teams] vs UW,
273 yds/5.3 ypp / 20 pts in a close win over OSU,
337 yds/ 5.6 ypp / 17 pts in a loss to $C,
a half where we only gained 87 yds/3.7 ypp/ 0 pts in a loss vs Utah,
and even our big win against Oregon was only 377 yds/ 4.8 ypp/ 26 pts.

So, given the level Stanford has been playing at overall since 2009, I would probably only call that offense okay.

[CTcard]

I guess it's a semantics game as to what "good" means, but I thought the 2013 offense was "good." It was certainly a top-20 offense, which by my reckoning is...good.

Yeah it's semantics, but some numbers ...
total offense yds/gm - 69th
total offense yds/play - 26th
S&P+ - 17th
FEI - 22nd [Football Outsiders]
FEI - 27th [BCFToys]
Pts/gm - 45th
Pts/play - 16th
Pts/drive ? [for some reason BCFToys got rid of this, but my memory is about 30th.]

Now, I'd give much less weight to anything that doesn't account for pace of play, but I'd still look at all those numbers (and I am sure there are several other relevant choices) and average things out to not-quite-top 20.

Perhaps of more concern, the offense was quite capable of collapsing against good defenses that 2011 and 2015 (after game 1.5) did not do. Everyone remembers Michigan State in the Rose Bowl, but that defense was so good it may not be the best measure. But that year Stanford also put up
284 yds/4.6 ypp/ 31 pts [largely on great special teams] vs UW,
273 yds/5.3 ypp / 20 pts in a close win over OSU,
337 yds/ 5.6 ypp / 17 pts in a loss to $C,
a half where we only gained 87 yds/3.7 ypp/ 0 pts in a loss vs Utah,
and even our big win against Oregon was only 377 yds/ 4.8 ypp/ 26 pts.

So, given the level Stanford has been playing at overall since 2009, I would probably only call that offense okay.