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OK, I'll say it.  Right now, Stanford is the Pac-12's flagship program.

Absolutely, and you are right to say it.

Setting aside the obvious objective facts as to why Stanford is currently the Pac-12's flagship program, I believe that the subjective perception nationally has caught up as well.
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I guess it depends what you mean.

I listen to a lot of satellite radio on my long commute these days. On the college football station, Stanford gets generically glowing references, but isn't discussed all that much. Most all of their Stanford-$C game recap was "what's wrong with $C?".

The reason for this isn't strange, it's number of fans. Stanford has fewer than most top 10 programs, top 25 for that matter.

IN the Pac 12, $C has the most fans it would seem. They certainly have the largest attendance by a considerable margin - which if they were actually good again would presumably go up a fair amount.

Here are the Pac 12 2015 attendance averages, home games.
U$C  75,358
UCLA 66,858.
UW    61,919
ASU  57,712
UO    57,631
UA    51,393
Stan  49,917
Cal      48,800
Utah  46,533
Colo  39,389
OSU  36,079
WSU  29,407

Personally, I am 100% okay with that, but it does affect media coverage.

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[quote author=Boston Card link=topic=15717.msg172193#msg172193 date=1474475760]
OK, I'll say it.  Right now, Stanford is the Pac-12's flagship program.

Absolutely, and you are right to say it.

Setting aside the obvious objective facts as to why Stanford is currently the Pac-12's flagship program, I believe that the subjective perception nationally has caught up as well.
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I guess it depends what you mean.

I listen to a lot of satellite radio on my long commute these days. On the college football station, Stanford gets generically glowing references, but isn't discussed all that much. Most all of their Stanford-$C game recap was "what's wrong with $C?".

The reason for this isn't strange, it's number of fans. Stanford has fewer than most top 10 programs, top 25 for that matter.

IN the Pac 12, $C has the most fans it would seem. They certainly have the largest attendance by a considerable margin - which if they were actually good again would presumably go up a fair amount.

Here are the Pac 12 2015 attendance averages, home games.
U$C  75,358
UCLA 66,858.
UW    61,919
ASU  57,712
UO    57,631
UA    51,393
Stan  49,917
Cal      48,800
Utah  46,533
Colo  39,389
OSU  36,079
WSU  29,407

Personally, I am 100% okay with that, but it does affect media coverage.