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As a HS senior, Jake Browning threw for 91 TD and 7 interceptions.

Obviously the range of high school competition is extremely wide, which combined with whether coaches elect to pad numbers in lopsided games renders statistical comparisons as almost meaningless.

Browning is clearly an outlier. Does that necessarily lead to the conclusion that statistical comparisons are meaningless? Not sure it does.
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I did say "almost meaningless", not "meaningless".

Browning is not an outlier at all. This season is not even over and there are players such as Nick Gerber (73 TD / 4 Int), Alex Huston (76/12), JT Daniels (63/2), Grant Gunnell (63/9) and many others with video game numbers. A few are top recruits; the vast majority are not.

Perhaps it's better to say that high school statistics are almost meaningless absent major adjustments based on state, division, team strength, etc.
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None of those players have numbers like Browning.

The truth is stats absolutely matter they just need to weighted against the level of competition and the level of supporting cast(relative to the competition). The same context you would give stats in college or NFL apply to HS it just takes more work.

For example the QB committed to Clemson who most sites have ranked ahead of Mills has inferior numbers, plays worse comp and with better teammates(relative to the comp). Its a pretty good indicator who's better
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Gerber has 73 TD and 4 interceptions with games remaining this season, can't say that none has numbers similar to Browning.

We are saying the same thing about the need for context, but high school requires a dramatically larger adjustment as compared to college or NFL obviously, to the point where evaluators don't put much weight on raw numbers.

Hunter Johnson's case (and the other top QB recruits this season) proves my point; college recruiters are not driven by raw numbers in making their evaluations.

[DC 86]

[quote author=DC 86 link=topic=11701.msg180601#msg180601 date=1480131525]
[quote author=JPRI link=topic=11701.msg180579#msg180579 date=1480120522]
[quote author=DC 86 link=topic=11701.msg180554#msg180554 date=1480111418]
As a HS senior, Jake Browning threw for 91 TD and 7 interceptions.

Obviously the range of high school competition is extremely wide, which combined with whether coaches elect to pad numbers in lopsided games renders statistical comparisons as almost meaningless.

Browning is clearly an outlier. Does that necessarily lead to the conclusion that statistical comparisons are meaningless? Not sure it does.
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I did say "almost meaningless", not "meaningless".

Browning is not an outlier at all. This season is not even over and there are players such as Nick Gerber (73 TD / 4 Int), Alex Huston (76/12), JT Daniels (63/2), Grant Gunnell (63/9) and many others with video game numbers. A few are top recruits; the vast majority are not.

Perhaps it's better to say that high school statistics are almost meaningless absent major adjustments based on state, division, team strength, etc.
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None of those players have numbers like Browning.

The truth is stats absolutely matter they just need to weighted against the level of competition and the level of supporting cast(relative to the competition). The same context you would give stats in college or NFL apply to HS it just takes more work.

For example the QB committed to Clemson who most sites have ranked ahead of Mills has inferior numbers, plays worse comp and with better teammates(relative to the comp). Its a pretty good indicator who's better
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Gerber has 73 TD and 4 interceptions with games remaining this season, can't say that none has numbers similar to Browning.

We are saying the same thing about the need for context, but high school requires a dramatically larger adjustment as compared to college or NFL obviously, to the point where evaluators don't put much weight on raw numbers.

Hunter Johnson's case (and the other top QB recruits this season) proves my point; college recruiters are not driven by raw numbers in making their evaluations.