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[quote author=GoodGrief link=topic=16699.msg190266#msg190266 date=1490028435]
It's really awesome to me that Stanford is beginning to be thought of as a football school.

I was talking with some of the older football alumni after Shaw's first year, and they were saying that they hope Stanford doesn't turn into a football school.  I get it.
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Frankly I don't get it.  I see where football gets Stanford national respect for the oustanding, unique, frankly unmatched athletics program that it has had for over a quarter-century, and I see our uniqueness being celebrated in many corners either through adultation and/or attempts to imitate it.  Without the success of football we'd still be regarded as an "Olympic sports" program which is great in and of itself but doesn't have the same draw

I also see other "smart" schools having more success as well - Duke football, Northwestern MBB are just a couple examples.

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[quote author=GoodGrief link=topic=16699.msg190266#msg190266 date=1490028435]
It's really awesome to me that Stanford is beginning to be thought of as a football school.

I was talking with some of the older football alumni after Shaw's first year, and they were saying that they hope Stanford doesn't turn into a football school.  I get it.
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Frankly I don't get it.  I see where football gets Stanford national respect for the oustanding, unique, frankly unmatched athletics program that it has had for over a quarter-century, and I see our uniqueness being celebrated in many corners either through adultation and/or attempts to imitate it.  Without the success of football we'd still be regarded as an "Olympic sports" program which is great in and of itself but doesn't have the same draw

I also see other "smart" schools having more success as well - Duke football, Northwestern MBB are just a couple examples.