Wilner has a better article on the task force and the cal AD funding problems.
[And how often are those first five words ever written on this site].
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/06/co...epartment/
Another place to look to keep some cal AD issues in perspective is the annual USA Today survey of AD department budgets, reported as mandated by the NCAA. These figures come from FOI requests, so include only pubic schools.
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/
[This was published April 2016 and covers 2014-15. For some reason there hasn't been an updated version this year yet, at least as far as I can tell.]
Cal is listed as having the 17th smallest "subsidy" of their athletic program among the 231 Division 1 public school programs listed at $1.2 million. However, cal also has something that is very rare on this list - they actually report a significant operating deficit of $8.5 million. If you add those together, cal comes in something closer to 98th smallest subsidy. That is still better than halfway, but there aren't that many BCS programs worse (some that are higher include UVa, ASU ($19 million), Rutgers).Â
Of course that is scheduled to get worse as paying off the stadium debt progresses. Wilner says that in FY 2016 cal lost $22 million. It's tricky to figure out how that number lines up with those above, but certainly seems that a year after that USA Today survey things got much worse, though apparently still not worst in the country bad.
I really think folks are significantly underestimating how much the Berkeley administration drains morale and school spirit. ... It's hard to care about the school's sports when you resent the school itself.
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I think there is a lot of underestimating how much cal students and alums identify with their school. On the topic at hand, it appears that cal does fairly well in raising donations, which is particularly notable because cal does not have a med school which is typically a major focus of such donations. [For example, see how high UCSF ranks in the surveys below, pretty amazing for being mostly just a med school.]Â
So, here is some data from press releases from Council for Aid to Education.
So, in donations collected, cal was
#18/#6 Public for 2014 http://cae.org/images/uploads/pdf/VSE-20...elease.pdf
#20/#5 Public for 2015 http://cae.org/images/uploads/pdf/VSE_20...elease.pdf
not top 20 for 2016 (6 public schools made the list) http://cae.org/images/uploads/pdf/VSE-20...elease.pdf
As for giving to athletics, the USA Today chart has some info if you click on a school, but it is not easily ranked.
So, donations for FY 15, FY 14, FY 13, all in millions:
Cal    $22.6, $22.7, $26.1, and considerably less before that.
UCLAÂ Â $16.8, $16.2, $14.4
UWÂ Â Â Â $22.8, $24.0, $26.6
Arizona $21.9, $44.3 (!), $16.4
Colorado $10.3, $10.5, $12.7
Utah   $8.0, $10.0, $7.5
Doesn't seem that cal is particularly behind on the donation front.
[And how often are those first five words ever written on this site].
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/06/co...epartment/
Another place to look to keep some cal AD issues in perspective is the annual USA Today survey of AD department budgets, reported as mandated by the NCAA. These figures come from FOI requests, so include only pubic schools.
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/
[This was published April 2016 and covers 2014-15. For some reason there hasn't been an updated version this year yet, at least as far as I can tell.]
Cal is listed as having the 17th smallest "subsidy" of their athletic program among the 231 Division 1 public school programs listed at $1.2 million. However, cal also has something that is very rare on this list - they actually report a significant operating deficit of $8.5 million. If you add those together, cal comes in something closer to 98th smallest subsidy. That is still better than halfway, but there aren't that many BCS programs worse (some that are higher include UVa, ASU ($19 million), Rutgers).Â
Of course that is scheduled to get worse as paying off the stadium debt progresses. Wilner says that in FY 2016 cal lost $22 million. It's tricky to figure out how that number lines up with those above, but certainly seems that a year after that USA Today survey things got much worse, though apparently still not worst in the country bad.
(06-07-2017, 05:50 PM)2006alum link Wrote:[quote author=Redrum link=topic=16961.msg194549#msg194549 date=1496879159]
How could they lose generation after generation of students >> alumni so detached from college athletics and ×ÉÉ football in general?Â
I really think folks are significantly underestimating how much the Berkeley administration drains morale and school spirit. ... It's hard to care about the school's sports when you resent the school itself.
[/quote]
I think there is a lot of underestimating how much cal students and alums identify with their school. On the topic at hand, it appears that cal does fairly well in raising donations, which is particularly notable because cal does not have a med school which is typically a major focus of such donations. [For example, see how high UCSF ranks in the surveys below, pretty amazing for being mostly just a med school.]Â
So, here is some data from press releases from Council for Aid to Education.
So, in donations collected, cal was
#18/#6 Public for 2014 http://cae.org/images/uploads/pdf/VSE-20...elease.pdf
#20/#5 Public for 2015 http://cae.org/images/uploads/pdf/VSE_20...elease.pdf
not top 20 for 2016 (6 public schools made the list) http://cae.org/images/uploads/pdf/VSE-20...elease.pdf
As for giving to athletics, the USA Today chart has some info if you click on a school, but it is not easily ranked.
So, donations for FY 15, FY 14, FY 13, all in millions:
Cal    $22.6, $22.7, $26.1, and considerably less before that.
UCLAÂ Â $16.8, $16.2, $14.4
UWÂ Â Â Â $22.8, $24.0, $26.6
Arizona $21.9, $44.3 (!), $16.4
Colorado $10.3, $10.5, $12.7
Utah   $8.0, $10.0, $7.5
Doesn't seem that cal is particularly behind on the donation front.