10-28-2017, 08:15 PM
I just think they are completely different games.
Meh. People say this all the time. But I'm not overly impressed by NFL head coaches. If people think Shaw is overly dogmatic and conservative, check out an NFL coach.
That's just bias speaking of course. Actual factual college coaches who go to the NFL do just fine. Pete Carroll went from being a dominant college football coach to leading a perennial contender in Seattle. Harbaugh is a great college coach and a great pro coach. Relatively mediocre college coaches like Doug Marrone or Dirk Koetter end up holding their own in the pros.
Of course sometimes coaches blow up. Nick Saban didn't do so hot in Miami, but it was a small sample -- and his lack of success has more to do with Dolphins' doctors not clearing Drew Brees than anything else. Bobby Petrino is a quitter. But of course any time you hire coaches in any sport, the default is failure. That some college coaches fail hardly shows anything.
Meanwhile pro coaches routinely fail in college. Jim Mora was a mediocre NFL coach and has proved to be so-so as UCLA head coach. Lovie Smith is failing at Illinois. Brian Schottenheimer is a curse word in Georgia. If there's some special genius that the pro coaches have, owing to the (allegedly) hypercompetitive environment of the NFL, it hasn't translated to college. In fact, my belief is that no institution better represents self-satisfaction and smugness than the NFL.
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(10-28-2017, 07:52 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:[quote author=Stymie link=topic=17799.msg208998#msg208998 date=1509245112]
You miss my point, Lex. All NCAAF football is the second level, from Alabama to Vassar. The NFL is the first level and the difference from the NCAAF is massive.
Meh. People say this all the time. But I'm not overly impressed by NFL head coaches. If people think Shaw is overly dogmatic and conservative, check out an NFL coach.
That's just bias speaking of course. Actual factual college coaches who go to the NFL do just fine. Pete Carroll went from being a dominant college football coach to leading a perennial contender in Seattle. Harbaugh is a great college coach and a great pro coach. Relatively mediocre college coaches like Doug Marrone or Dirk Koetter end up holding their own in the pros.
Of course sometimes coaches blow up. Nick Saban didn't do so hot in Miami, but it was a small sample -- and his lack of success has more to do with Dolphins' doctors not clearing Drew Brees than anything else. Bobby Petrino is a quitter. But of course any time you hire coaches in any sport, the default is failure. That some college coaches fail hardly shows anything.
Meanwhile pro coaches routinely fail in college. Jim Mora was a mediocre NFL coach and has proved to be so-so as UCLA head coach. Lovie Smith is failing at Illinois. Brian Schottenheimer is a curse word in Georgia. If there's some special genius that the pro coaches have, owing to the (allegedly) hypercompetitive environment of the NFL, it hasn't translated to college. In fact, my belief is that no institution better represents self-satisfaction and smugness than the NFL.
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