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[quote author=stupac2 link=topic=18301.msg217207#msg217207 date=1512517461]
I'm a bit surprised the voters went with Shaw over Helton, voter fatigue does seem to be real and it's pretty easy to vote for the guy who won the conference, even if he was expected to. Though I can't say I'm unhappy with the outcome. I wonder what the actual distribution of votes was.

It's kind of amazing that we have a coach who's been more likely than not to be named Coach of the Year through his tenure, I wonder how many other coaches that's true of.

Our friend Jon Wilner picked Todd Graham, but said he also considered Helton, Rodriguez, and Taggart;  and earlier had written that he would consider Leach. Never a mention of the actual winner.

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/12/05/th...d-winners/
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Sometimes I wonder if Wilner is just trolling.

I see Wilner picked Ma'atafa, whose case I argue above.  Still think Phillips was the most important, and Stanford, without Phillips has no defensive line.
His All-Pac-12 list is not bad.

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[quote author=stupac2 link=topic=18301.msg217207#msg217207 date=1512517461]
I'm a bit surprised the voters went with Shaw over Helton, voter fatigue does seem to be real and it's pretty easy to vote for the guy who won the conference, even if he was expected to. Though I can't say I'm unhappy with the outcome. I wonder what the actual distribution of votes was.

It's kind of amazing that we have a coach who's been more likely than not to be named Coach of the Year through his tenure, I wonder how many other coaches that's true of.

Our friend Jon Wilner picked Todd Graham, but said he also considered Helton, Rodriguez, and Taggart;  and earlier had written that he would consider Leach. Never a mention of the actual winner.

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/12/05/th...d-winners/
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Sometimes I wonder if Wilner is just trolling.

I see Wilner picked Ma'atafa, whose case I argue above.  Still think Phillips was the most important, and Stanford, without Phillips has no defensive line.
His All-Pac-12 list is not bad.

BC