[Mick]

Wow Mick good research. So how many times did the Dodgers lead off a game with the Wills-Gilliam-Davis scenario to score the first run? I know I didn’t imagine it. 😜

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Ok you’ve convinced me for now. It seems like yesterday that Wills would walk, steal second, go to third on a ground ball to the right side by Gilliam, and score on a Tommy Davis sac fly. Then Koufax or Drysdale would throw a shutout and we lose to the bad guys 1-0.

Oddly enough, that never actually happened.  The San Francisco Giants never lost a 1-0 game against the Los Angeles Dodgers when either Koufax or Drysdale was pitching during the 12 seasons that at least one pitcher was on the Dodgers pitching staff (1958 to 1969).  The LA Dodgers, however, lost three games by a 1-0 score over the Giants in that time frame, and McCormick was the WP two of the three times:

1) Koufax lost to McCormick:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes...9030.shtml

2) Drysdale lost to Herbel with O'Dell in relief:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes...6280.shtml

3) McCormick beat Claude "The White Rat" Osteen:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes...7090.shtml

The only game in which the San Francisco Giants lost 1-0 to the Los Angeles Dodgers during the careers of Koufax and Drysdale, the winning Dodgers pitcher was Roger Craig, who beat Sam Jones 1-0 on 7/21/59.  Incidentally, Craig had a 49-38 record with the Dodgers at the start of his career, then went to the Mets in 1962 and nosedived.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SFN/SFN195907210.shtml 

Obviously, Koufax and Drysdale had some close victories over the Giants.  Drysdale, in particular won seven games by a 2-1 score (including one over Marichal) and Koufax beat O'Dell 2-0 and Shaw 2-1 in that time span, but Koufax had no other victories in which he beat the SF Giants by a 2-0 or 2-1 score. 
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes...5220.shtml
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes...4200.shtml
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes...7080.shtml
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes...5100.shtml
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes...4290.shtml
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes...6160.shtml
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes...6250.shtml
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes...6260.shtml

Incidentally, during those 12 seasons, the teams were very evenly matched, with the Giants winning 120 games and the Dodgers winning 115.  Four of the season series ended in ties (1958, 1963, 1966 and 1968), the Dodgers won three series (14-8 in 1959, 10-8 in 1965 and 12-6 in 1967), and the Giants won five season series (1960 and 1961 were 12-10, 1962 was 11-10, 1964 was 12-6 and 1969 was the most lopsided at 13 wins for the Giants and five for the Dodgers).

Then came the 1970s and the Giants lost Cepeda, Mays, McCovey, Jim Ray Hart, McCormick, Perry, Marichal, Dietz and Bobby Bonds to be replaced by nothing and no one.  At least they got rid of Foster, Kingman, Bonds, Henderson and Speier.  The Dodgers replaced their 1960s stars with Sutton, Garvey, Cey, Russell, Buckner, Ferguson, Messersmith, Yeager, Dusty Baker, Reggie Smith, Rick Monday, Mike Marshall and Tommy John. And won pennants in 74, 77, 78 and 91.  Ugh.

The Giants would have to wait from 1962 to 1989 and Ron Fairly's only memorable line "27 years of waiting have come to an end..."
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You didn't imagine it, it's just that the games tended to be 2-1 instead of 1-0, at least when Drysdale and Koufax were pitching.  And Mills-Gilliam-Davis was pretty common, but my limited research skills can't produce the answer, unfortunately.  My uneducated guess would be "a lot."

[Mick]

Wow Mick good research. So how many times did the Dodgers lead off a game with the Wills-Gilliam-Davis scenario to score the first run? I know I didn’t imagine it. 😜

[quote author=Mick link=topic=18773.msg225640#msg225640 date=1520637682]
[quote author=qwerty49 link=topic=18773.msg225628#msg225628 date=1520631663]
Ok you’ve convinced me for now. It seems like yesterday that Wills would walk, steal second, go to third on a ground ball to the right side by Gilliam, and score on a Tommy Davis sac fly. Then Koufax or Drysdale would throw a shutout and we lose to the bad guys 1-0.

Oddly enough, that never actually happened.  The San Francisco Giants never lost a 1-0 game against the Los Angeles Dodgers when either Koufax or Drysdale was pitching during the 12 seasons that at least one pitcher was on the Dodgers pitching staff (1958 to 1969).  The LA Dodgers, however, lost three games by a 1-0 score over the Giants in that time frame, and McCormick was the WP two of the three times:

1) Koufax lost to McCormick:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes...9030.shtml

2) Drysdale lost to Herbel with O'Dell in relief:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes...6280.shtml

3) McCormick beat Claude "The White Rat" Osteen:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes...7090.shtml

The only game in which the San Francisco Giants lost 1-0 to the Los Angeles Dodgers during the careers of Koufax and Drysdale, the winning Dodgers pitcher was Roger Craig, who beat Sam Jones 1-0 on 7/21/59.  Incidentally, Craig had a 49-38 record with the Dodgers at the start of his career, then went to the Mets in 1962 and nosedived.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SFN/SFN195907210.shtml 

Obviously, Koufax and Drysdale had some close victories over the Giants.  Drysdale, in particular won seven games by a 2-1 score (including one over Marichal) and Koufax beat O'Dell 2-0 and Shaw 2-1 in that time span, but Koufax had no other victories in which he beat the SF Giants by a 2-0 or 2-1 score. 
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes...5220.shtml
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes...4200.shtml
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes...7080.shtml
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes...5100.shtml
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes...4290.shtml
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes...6160.shtml
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes...6250.shtml
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes...6260.shtml

Incidentally, during those 12 seasons, the teams were very evenly matched, with the Giants winning 120 games and the Dodgers winning 115.  Four of the season series ended in ties (1958, 1963, 1966 and 1968), the Dodgers won three series (14-8 in 1959, 10-8 in 1965 and 12-6 in 1967), and the Giants won five season series (1960 and 1961 were 12-10, 1962 was 11-10, 1964 was 12-6 and 1969 was the most lopsided at 13 wins for the Giants and five for the Dodgers).

Then came the 1970s and the Giants lost Cepeda, Mays, McCovey, Jim Ray Hart, McCormick, Perry, Marichal, Dietz and Bobby Bonds to be replaced by nothing and no one.  At least they got rid of Foster, Kingman, Bonds, Henderson and Speier.  The Dodgers replaced their 1960s stars with Sutton, Garvey, Cey, Russell, Buckner, Ferguson, Messersmith, Yeager, Dusty Baker, Reggie Smith, Rick Monday, Mike Marshall and Tommy John. And won pennants in 74, 77, 78 and 91.  Ugh.

The Giants would have to wait from 1962 to 1989 and Ron Fairly's only memorable line "27 years of waiting have come to an end..."
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You didn't imagine it, it's just that the games tended to be 2-1 instead of 1-0, at least when Drysdale and Koufax were pitching.  And Mills-Gilliam-Davis was pretty common, but my limited research skills can't produce the answer, unfortunately.  My uneducated guess would be "a lot."