[yvonne]

3. Oregon - 1, 4, 5 - 3 pts: Meaningful games, usually tight/nobody dominates,  Stanford fans don't like the criminals Oregon recruits. You might say Oregon is more important than Notre Dame, but I guarantee most Stanford fans would pick beating Notre Dame as more satisfying than beating the Ducks, if they could only have one win between the two.

4. Cal - 2, 3, 5 - 3 pts: Recruit against each other, 30 miles apart, Cal-Stanford academic rivalry. These teams haven't been consistently good enough at the same time, and their games really have never settled anything in the Pac-12.

Thus confirming to everyone on the board that OutsiderFan is, indeed, an outsider.

[yvonne]

3. Oregon - 1, 4, 5 - 3 pts: Meaningful games, usually tight/nobody dominates,  Stanford fans don't like the criminals Oregon recruits. You might say Oregon is more important than Notre Dame, but I guarantee most Stanford fans would pick beating Notre Dame as more satisfying than beating the Ducks, if they could only have one win between the two.

4. Cal - 2, 3, 5 - 3 pts: Recruit against each other, 30 miles apart, Cal-Stanford academic rivalry. These teams haven't been consistently good enough at the same time, and their games really have never settled anything in the Pac-12.

Thus confirming to everyone on the board that OutsiderFan is, indeed, an outsider.