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I guess I'd agree that success isn't a certainty for Kelly, but I guess I just feel like he's going to be able to get better players than he did in Eugene. He probably had to work to get guys to come. Even with all the Nike money and the elite facilities, it's still Eugene. I figure he'll have an easier time recruiting to a school that is, by some measures, the most sought after college destination in America. (It's not Harvard or Stanford, but UCLA has had the most applicants for a few years in a row.)

A few things on Kelly, UCLA and recruiting.

First off, most of Kelly's winning in Eugene was not with his own recruits. He was only there four years. However, recruiting did turn upwards while he was at Oregon and much of Helfrich's winning in Eugene was with Kelly's recruits.

Secondly, UCLA has been recruiting generally quite well according to the services, and so far there is no sign of an upturn with Kelly. Whether these previous recruits are the kind of players Kelly wants or not, I don't know. Still, it appears that the recent issues at UCLA are more connected to development than recruiting.

UCLA
Mora's UCLA classes by 247sports (# nationally, # Pac 12)
2012: #18, #4
2013: #7, #1
2014: #18, #3
2015: #12, #2
2016: #13, #2
2017: #20, #4

Chip Kelly's classes
2018: #19, #4
2019: #85, #11 (so far - it's probably too early for this to be meaningful, especially with only 8 recruits)

Oregon
Before Kelly
2006: #50, #9
2007: #14, #2
2008: #34, #8
Kelly
2009: #30, #3
2010: #12, #3
2011: #12, #2
2012: #14, #3


Finally, a university's appeal to a football player is generally most dependent on the football program itself and not a strong function of the university's appeal to students broadly across the nation. After all, Alabama has the top recruiting class most every year.

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I guess I'd agree that success isn't a certainty for Kelly, but I guess I just feel like he's going to be able to get better players than he did in Eugene. He probably had to work to get guys to come. Even with all the Nike money and the elite facilities, it's still Eugene. I figure he'll have an easier time recruiting to a school that is, by some measures, the most sought after college destination in America. (It's not Harvard or Stanford, but UCLA has had the most applicants for a few years in a row.)

A few things on Kelly, UCLA and recruiting.

First off, most of Kelly's winning in Eugene was not with his own recruits. He was only there four years. However, recruiting did turn upwards while he was at Oregon and much of Helfrich's winning in Eugene was with Kelly's recruits.

Secondly, UCLA has been recruiting generally quite well according to the services, and so far there is no sign of an upturn with Kelly. Whether these previous recruits are the kind of players Kelly wants or not, I don't know. Still, it appears that the recent issues at UCLA are more connected to development than recruiting.

UCLA
Mora's UCLA classes by 247sports (# nationally, # Pac 12)
2012: #18, #4
2013: #7, #1
2014: #18, #3
2015: #12, #2
2016: #13, #2
2017: #20, #4

Chip Kelly's classes
2018: #19, #4
2019: #85, #11 (so far - it's probably too early for this to be meaningful, especially with only 8 recruits)

Oregon
Before Kelly
2006: #50, #9
2007: #14, #2
2008: #34, #8
Kelly
2009: #30, #3
2010: #12, #3
2011: #12, #2
2012: #14, #3


Finally, a university's appeal to a football player is generally most dependent on the football program itself and not a strong function of the university's appeal to students broadly across the nation. After all, Alabama has the top recruiting class most every year.