10-14-2018, 06:53 AM
(10-11-2018, 03:20 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(10-11-2018, 02:39 PM)CTcard Wrote:(10-11-2018, 12:16 PM)2006alum Wrote: I'm inclined to give Haase some benefit of the doubt here. The reason we're not excited is because Dawkins recruited pretty poorly in his final two years at the Farm, which is why we have no notable upperclassmen.That's not quite how I would describe the situation.
First off, by now it has been some time since Dawkins. His second to last class would all be fifth years were they around.
His last class was down a notch, but the player rankings weren't bad. Considerable not panning out there, for whatever reason.
Haase's first year was a little rough - with only Pugh and Stanback - though it's always tough to recruit through a transition.
Overall, Stanford basketball recruiting seems to have been better than Stanford basketball performance for some time now - at least if you believe the recruiting services.
Both Pugh and Stanback committed to Stanford under Dawkins and stuck with their commitments after his post-season firing. Haase had basically zero time to recruit between his hiring and signing day. Dawkins' "final two years at the Farm" were thus 2014-15 and 2015-16, and both of these seasons' recruiting classes were poor by Dawkins' standards. There has been "considerable not panning out" for essentially every single member of both classes, considering they were all in the top 150 recruits in the nation...
2016 - class rank #56 national, #9 Pac 12
Pugh: #94
Stanback: #110
You also have to consider we never saw the real Cartwright as his career was severely impeded by that awful injury, out of the next group Walker retired, and Sheffield has been hurt most of his career and other than a few flashes hasn't contributed. This year will be a completely different team in terms of style and tempo. From everything I can glean, they want to push the ball, no more waiting for a big to establish himself on the low post, more pressure defensively using the length and athleticism to try and force turnovers and go the other way. Sort of doing to others what was so often done to us in the past.
Davis has made it clear he thinks his turn over issues are solved. Biggest unknown is obviously rebounding. Haase' comments make it pretty clear everybody has to rebound, and he doesn't sound sure like he thinks the issue is solved. I do think he feels we will force more turn overs this year. If that is true, it may help offset some of the missing rebounds. I don't foresee that we will be what used to pass for Stanford normal, rebound, walk the ball down the court and setup the half court game. That style just doesn't fit our guys now.
