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And if Costello had thrown a pick six, or had a turnover in our plus territory (which ASU would have almost undoubtedly cashed in, with far more time, and most consequentially, 60 fewer yards to cover) we would be ripping Shaw for "having Costello throw", when surely he should have seen the pick-six against Utah, or the turnovers against Utah in general from Costello, Scarlett et al. Or if Costello fumbled from holding onto the ball or something, Shaw should have known better, given the struggles of the OL to hold up in protection.

Dude, I'm specifically talking about the entire fourth quarter. It would be one thing if we had tried to get a first down at any other point in the game, but we didn't! We had 3 possessions in the 4th, ran something like 12 plays, and tried TWO passes. And guess what? Both were successfully plays! Literally NONE of the runs were successful. So why keep doing it? And, after KJ has passed and scrambled for a 1st down near midfield, why just stop throwing? It had worked!

And no, I will never be more upset with wins (particularly on the road against albeit a middle of the road Pac-12 team) than blowing home games with pick sixes, roughing the punter, fumbles etc.

And this wasn't even close to the worst performance in win a game during the Shaw era (which was last year's miracle at Oregon State). I will save my frustration for losses, particularly at home, which go a long way toward deciding division and conference crowns and the like.

There's a difference between mistakes by players and mistakes by coaching. This was a mistake that trivially could've been prevented, even at ORST last year that wasn't true. That's why it's infuriating. It's one thing for a player to make a mistake in the heat of the moment, but while you're on the sideline needing one first down to win the game, with the opponent keying on the run and you just go into three times? Or up 14 with the ball where any points at all will ice the game and you just run into a wall 3 times and punt it back? TWICE??? This is 2018, not 1988. This is how you lose football games. It might not have cost us last night but it definitely will if he keeps doing it.

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And if Costello had thrown a pick six, or had a turnover in our plus territory (which ASU would have almost undoubtedly cashed in, with far more time, and most consequentially, 60 fewer yards to cover) we would be ripping Shaw for "having Costello throw", when surely he should have seen the pick-six against Utah, or the turnovers against Utah in general from Costello, Scarlett et al. Or if Costello fumbled from holding onto the ball or something, Shaw should have known better, given the struggles of the OL to hold up in protection.

Dude, I'm specifically talking about the entire fourth quarter. It would be one thing if we had tried to get a first down at any other point in the game, but we didn't! We had 3 possessions in the 4th, ran something like 12 plays, and tried TWO passes. And guess what? Both were successfully plays! Literally NONE of the runs were successful. So why keep doing it? And, after KJ has passed and scrambled for a 1st down near midfield, why just stop throwing? It had worked!

And no, I will never be more upset with wins (particularly on the road against albeit a middle of the road Pac-12 team) than blowing home games with pick sixes, roughing the punter, fumbles etc.

And this wasn't even close to the worst performance in win a game during the Shaw era (which was last year's miracle at Oregon State). I will save my frustration for losses, particularly at home, which go a long way toward deciding division and conference crowns and the like.

There's a difference between mistakes by players and mistakes by coaching. This was a mistake that trivially could've been prevented, even at ORST last year that wasn't true. That's why it's infuriating. It's one thing for a player to make a mistake in the heat of the moment, but while you're on the sideline needing one first down to win the game, with the opponent keying on the run and you just go into three times? Or up 14 with the ball where any points at all will ice the game and you just run into a wall 3 times and punt it back? TWICE??? This is 2018, not 1988. This is how you lose football games. It might not have cost us last night but it definitely will if he keeps doing it.