10-24-2018, 10:18 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-24-2018, 10:25 AM by BostonCard.)
(10-24-2018, 08:07 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: All anyone needs to do is watch Stanford play football games and watch other teams play football games to know Stanford doesn't offer as many opportunities for WRs as other top programs. But here's a relevant comparison to keep in mind. Equanimeous St. Brown played just two games as a Frosh and would have redshirted under today's rules, so it's not a complete apples to apples comparison about the first years of each St. Brown brother.
Osiris St. Brown: 5 games, 6 catches, 144 yds, 0 TDs
Equa. St. Brown: 12 games, 58 catches, 961 yds, 9 TDs
Amon Ra St. Brown: 6 games, 29 catches, 427 yds, 2 TDs
As I said, the drop-off from the top 2 wide receivers to our #3 receiver (St. Brown) is dramatic. But not offering as many opportunities to our third wide receiver is not the same as saying "WRs just don't get featured in Shaw's offense" as you said to start off this subthread. That is a demonstrably false statement, as JJ Arcega-Whiteside clearly proves. He is a wide receiver and he features in our offense as much as any wide receiver features in any offense, and if you are Elijah Higgins, you could do much worse than to have a career like JJ-AW has had at Stanford.
Look there is room to make a more subtle argument; for example, that Stanford rarely features freshmen wide receivers. Osiris St. Brown redshirted last year and has 6 catches this year; Wilson has only 3 catches. Last year, Connor Weddington had 31 catches for 243 yards, and that is the most in the Shaw era (comparable to what Amon Ra has done in half a season). You could make an argument that Stanford doesn't feature a lot of depth at wide receiver, as the data I provided earlier shows. But you opted for a gross generalization instead, and when shown data that contradicted your unfounded assertion, you moved the goalposts.
BC
(10-24-2018, 05:53 AM)CTcard Wrote: So far this year Stanford has had two games with 8 guys, two games with 7 guys, two games with 6 guys, and one game with 5 guys catching a pass.
The original sub-thread was about wide receivers, so I am not counting our tight ends (even though Parkinson is routinely used as a slot receiver) or our running backs. There are teams that routinely have six or more wide receivers catching a pass in a game; Stanford is simply not one of them. We've had five wide receivers catch a pass this year. One of them (Weddington) played in one game. Michael Wilson has a catch in three games. That means that we have a bunch of games where three and in some cases only two wide receivers caught a pass.
BC
