[JPR36]

I have always defended Shaw versus the “turtling” charge. And I had researched before to see if they had ever lost a game in his tenure up more than 7 going into the 4th. I don’t think he has. So the bottom line is it has consistently worked. But I couldn’t defend ASU. Reason being this is not a great defensive team.  He at least called the back to back pass plays on second and lond and third and about seven. Got the one first down. Then ran three times. Flem was very critical saying that forcing ASU to use all three TOS wasn’t critical. They still had plenty of time. He was right. Until he wasn’t. They in fact ran out of time.

Someone else said this- the more viable criticism is the inability to pick up tempo when behind.

The "turtling" makes more sense to me when we have a stronger running game and a better defense. It worked against ASU, though, albeit not by much.

[JPR36]

I have always defended Shaw versus the “turtling” charge. And I had researched before to see if they had ever lost a game in his tenure up more than 7 going into the 4th. I don’t think he has. So the bottom line is it has consistently worked. But I couldn’t defend ASU. Reason being this is not a great defensive team.  He at least called the back to back pass plays on second and lond and third and about seven. Got the one first down. Then ran three times. Flem was very critical saying that forcing ASU to use all three TOS wasn’t critical. They still had plenty of time. He was right. Until he wasn’t. They in fact ran out of time.

Someone else said this- the more viable criticism is the inability to pick up tempo when behind.

The "turtling" makes more sense to me when we have a stronger running game and a better defense. It worked against ASU, though, albeit not by much.