[StanfordMatt]

Matt are you suggesting  that 25 or so Stanford coaches leave because they haven’t won a championship?

Definitely not, Bob. Context matters. For example, I think Jason Borrelli is doing a fabulous job with our wrestling program even though they haven't won a national championship. But for XC, I believe a national championship is a very realistic goal. Over a 12-year period from 96-07, we won nine of them (9-for-24). In seven years, Milt went a collective 0-for-14.

I'm not saying Milt should've been fired; just that I don't believe he did anything that should be considered exceeding expectations with respect to XC. I also realize that he oversaw the whole T&F program, of which XC/distance is just a piece. I readily admit that I don't follow indoor and outdoor track closely enough to know if he exceeded expectations for those sports and I'll defer to you on that point. However, I'd also contend that given the history of our T&F program, our XC/distance running is the most significant component given that this is where we've had the most success historically.

[StanfordMatt]

Matt are you suggesting  that 25 or so Stanford coaches leave because they haven’t won a championship?

Definitely not, Bob. Context matters. For example, I think Jason Borrelli is doing a fabulous job with our wrestling program even though they haven't won a national championship. But for XC, I believe a national championship is a very realistic goal. Over a 12-year period from 96-07, we won nine of them (9-for-24). In seven years, Milt went a collective 0-for-14.

I'm not saying Milt should've been fired; just that I don't believe he did anything that should be considered exceeding expectations with respect to XC. I also realize that he oversaw the whole T&F program, of which XC/distance is just a piece. I readily admit that I don't follow indoor and outdoor track closely enough to know if he exceeded expectations for those sports and I'll defer to you on that point. However, I'd also contend that given the history of our T&F program, our XC/distance running is the most significant component given that this is where we've had the most success historically.