[cardcrimson]

I wonder, what happens when/if the Niners start running this play more often.  Does it keep working every time, or is there something that a savvy defensive coordinator, seeing the play on film, can counter-scheme.  Would Kittle always be wide open because this is an indefensible play?  I doubt that.  The question is whether you still can get a decent match-up (and Kittle being an elite tight end, you probably can) even if the defense covers it.  I don't think you can always count on your receiver wide open, so then it will require the offense to execute the play.  If it truly is schematically indefensible, then shouldn't the Niners be running it every single time?

Same story with Mills' touchdown passes to a wide open Fehoko against both UW and Cal.  You can make an argument that "scheme" was responsible, but more likely it was a combination of the play call being effective against what the defense was trying to do.  In this case, we called the right play at the right time, but that doesn't mean that it was an indefensible play.

BC

Good heavens. I'm not the one that said I'd take the same match up all day. Shaw did. I simply commented on the creativity of Shanahan and how I'd like to see that in our offense. He doesn't run the same play over and over again. He finds creative ways for his best players to exploit the defense. What a concept.

 BTW, from what I understand, the plays to Fehoko were great. Congrats to the mindtrust for that. . . .

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No, he wouldn't.

[quote="cardcrimson" pid='262255' dateline='1574740833']

My post wasn't about the one play, but the mentality that Shaw would take that match up all day long. Kinda like running the ball between the tackles four straight times against MSU, cause "that's what we do". Shanahan is unpredictable and finds very creative ways to get his best players involved. Jump balls and curl routes just don't cut it anymore.

I am willing to wager that Shanahan would take Kittle matched up with Blake Martinez all day long, if he could.

[cardcrimson]

I wonder, what happens when/if the Niners start running this play more often.  Does it keep working every time, or is there something that a savvy defensive coordinator, seeing the play on film, can counter-scheme.  Would Kittle always be wide open because this is an indefensible play?  I doubt that.  The question is whether you still can get a decent match-up (and Kittle being an elite tight end, you probably can) even if the defense covers it.  I don't think you can always count on your receiver wide open, so then it will require the offense to execute the play.  If it truly is schematically indefensible, then shouldn't the Niners be running it every single time?

Same story with Mills' touchdown passes to a wide open Fehoko against both UW and Cal.  You can make an argument that "scheme" was responsible, but more likely it was a combination of the play call being effective against what the defense was trying to do.  In this case, we called the right play at the right time, but that doesn't mean that it was an indefensible play.

BC

Good heavens. I'm not the one that said I'd take the same match up all day. Shaw did. I simply commented on the creativity of Shanahan and how I'd like to see that in our offense. He doesn't run the same play over and over again. He finds creative ways for his best players to exploit the defense. What a concept.

 BTW, from what I understand, the plays to Fehoko were great. Congrats to the mindtrust for that. . . .

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No, he wouldn't.

[quote="cardcrimson" pid='262255' dateline='1574740833']

My post wasn't about the one play, but the mentality that Shaw would take that match up all day long. Kinda like running the ball between the tackles four straight times against MSU, cause "that's what we do". Shanahan is unpredictable and finds very creative ways to get his best players involved. Jump balls and curl routes just don't cut it anymore.

I am willing to wager that Shanahan would take Kittle matched up with Blake Martinez all day long, if he could.