[gailtate]

OK, I'll go first: He's "on course" for another sub-.500 season. Middling talent almost everywhere you look and a staff to go along with it.

A lot will depend on who comes back and who departs.  Early returns are not great.

But strangely I'm tempted to take the over on that one.  I'd be hard pressed to say we are likely to wind up with a good season, but I could see us ending the year at 6-6.

BC

Off-camera announcer (think SuperBowl): "Hey, coach Shaw! You just concluded a 4-8 season and wound up in the dregs of almost every statistic in the FBS! What'd'ya do now?!"

Shaw: "Stand pat".

[gailtate]

OK, I'll go first: He's "on course" for another sub-.500 season. Middling talent almost everywhere you look and a staff to go along with it.

A lot will depend on who comes back and who departs.  Early returns are not great.

But strangely I'm tempted to take the over on that one.  I'd be hard pressed to say we are likely to wind up with a good season, but I could see us ending the year at 6-6.

BC

Off-camera announcer (think SuperBowl): "Hey, coach Shaw! You just concluded a 4-8 season and wound up in the dregs of almost every statistic in the FBS! What'd'ya do now?!"

Shaw: "Stand pat".