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THIS POST IS ABOUT STANFORD@CAL. It would be my preference that we continue to have different threads for different games, even if two consecutive games are against the same opponent. I see no advantage to putting them as a single thread. The two games were very much different and should be treated separately.
I disagree. The refs made bad calls, and I did feel the calls were lopsided, but I wouldn't call this game as called tightly, or even just against us. (It has been my impression that fewer fouls are being called this year, but I haven't decided whether that is general, or just the games I watched.)
I wouldn't put much trust in +/- of a single game. Prechtel clearly had a positive impact on the game, so you can ask why didn't she shine in that statistic. The starters (plus Jones, minus Belibi) got a lot of positive impact from that first quarter (as they should): +9 in 10 minutes. Anyone who mostly played after that is part of the +5 in 30 minutes. (Even if you take +/- for a season, the players that start for a dominant team will benefit from their playing time being shared with the other good players.)
That said, I do think Williams was the most critical in the game. Clearly Jones was important. The Hulls contributed very well. Fingall, not so much, not even on defense. (Granted, if Fingall did a great job on blocking out -- which she may have but I didn't notice it much -- she could have contributed to our very strong rebounding numbers, even if she didn't pull down many rebounds herself.)
I thought how we played the press was weak. Williams lost the ball in the backcourt once. We didn't punish them for the press. (We tried once, but Jones went down the middle of the lane, which allowed the sole defender the opportunity to block Fingall when she got the ball. At least one other chance of a 3 on 1 was passed up by one of the Hulls.)
We didn't play the officials as Cal did. I don't remember any flops, or any blatant moving screens by Stanford. (I'm glad we didn't, but that did impact several foul calls in Cal's favor.) Speaking of that, how often do you see an illegal screen called on the ball handler (when she wasn't dribbling!)?
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Our offensive scoring was relatively even (with a bump for the 3ptrs of Q3)
S 18-18-26-17.
C 09-20-19-17
We got a ton of points in the paint, 52 (to their 20).
Even if you credit all their FTs as "in-the-paint, but delayed", we still beat them handily in the paint.
We got 35.4% of the rebounds under our basket, and 82.8% under their basket - dominating.
THIS POST IS ABOUT STANFORD@CAL. It would be my preference that we continue to have different threads for different games, even if two consecutive games are against the same opponent. I see no advantage to putting them as a single thread. The two games were very much different and should be treated separately.
(01-09-2020, 11:18 AM)81alum Wrote:
The other massive equalizer was that Cal had 18 points off free throws while we had 4. This is a big clue. My guess is that we tried to defend them the same way we did no Friday, and these refs called the game much more tightly--preventing our very close defense from having the same effect.
I disagree. The refs made bad calls, and I did feel the calls were lopsided, but I wouldn't call this game as called tightly, or even just against us. (It has been my impression that fewer fouls are being called this year, but I haven't decided whether that is general, or just the games I watched.)
(01-09-2020, 11:18 AM)81alum Wrote: In terms of +/-, Williams was far and away the most outstanding player at 24. Lexie, Fingall, Jones, and Lacie all had good ratings in the mid teens. No one else--even Prechtel--came close to those five.
I wouldn't put much trust in +/- of a single game. Prechtel clearly had a positive impact on the game, so you can ask why didn't she shine in that statistic. The starters (plus Jones, minus Belibi) got a lot of positive impact from that first quarter (as they should): +9 in 10 minutes. Anyone who mostly played after that is part of the +5 in 30 minutes. (Even if you take +/- for a season, the players that start for a dominant team will benefit from their playing time being shared with the other good players.)
That said, I do think Williams was the most critical in the game. Clearly Jones was important. The Hulls contributed very well. Fingall, not so much, not even on defense. (Granted, if Fingall did a great job on blocking out -- which she may have but I didn't notice it much -- she could have contributed to our very strong rebounding numbers, even if she didn't pull down many rebounds herself.)
I thought how we played the press was weak. Williams lost the ball in the backcourt once. We didn't punish them for the press. (We tried once, but Jones went down the middle of the lane, which allowed the sole defender the opportunity to block Fingall when she got the ball. At least one other chance of a 3 on 1 was passed up by one of the Hulls.)
We didn't play the officials as Cal did. I don't remember any flops, or any blatant moving screens by Stanford. (I'm glad we didn't, but that did impact several foul calls in Cal's favor.) Speaking of that, how often do you see an illegal screen called on the ball handler (when she wasn't dribbling!)?
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Our offensive scoring was relatively even (with a bump for the 3ptrs of Q3)
S 18-18-26-17.
C 09-20-19-17
We got a ton of points in the paint, 52 (to their 20).
Even if you credit all their FTs as "in-the-paint, but delayed", we still beat them handily in the paint.
We got 35.4% of the rebounds under our basket, and 82.8% under their basket - dominating.