[teejers1]

There's a world of difference between being a team with national title aspirations and being a team that makes the NCAAs and contends for a conference title. Transfers may hurt/eliminate Stanford's chances of the former, but the latter is still very achievable.

Also, I don't buy for one second that one-and-dones hurt Stanford and have it argued directly with Muir. How much better would Kentucky be if Calipari's players stayed for a minimum of three years? We agreed to disagree.

All of that aside, transfers and one-and-dones are no excuse for the last 12 years of mediocre men's basketball. Haase will get next year (not my preference), but the mediocrity needs to end.

Well said.  The one-and-dones are probably a wash for Stanford, but if they lean any direction, my gut says it favors Stanford.  If the one-and-dones did not go to Duke, how many good players would Stanford not even sign?

[teejers1]

There's a world of difference between being a team with national title aspirations and being a team that makes the NCAAs and contends for a conference title. Transfers may hurt/eliminate Stanford's chances of the former, but the latter is still very achievable.

Also, I don't buy for one second that one-and-dones hurt Stanford and have it argued directly with Muir. How much better would Kentucky be if Calipari's players stayed for a minimum of three years? We agreed to disagree.

All of that aside, transfers and one-and-dones are no excuse for the last 12 years of mediocre men's basketball. Haase will get next year (not my preference), but the mediocrity needs to end.

Well said.  The one-and-dones are probably a wash for Stanford, but if they lean any direction, my gut says it favors Stanford.  If the one-and-dones did not go to Duke, how many good players would Stanford not even sign?