[Genuine Realist]

I know a few people seem to feel that the lockdowns are doing more harm than good.

And now, the advent of “social distancing deniers”.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/16/us/protes...index.html

People in some states are putting a lot of pressure on their governors to lift the Shelter In Places. It feels like some governors will do just that, maybe in a few weeks, even if adequate testing and contact tracing are not in place to contain things without a Shelter In Place.

I have a feeling this will end very badly for those states, and I’m glad California is not in driving distance of them, plus, with its high cost of living and Nancy Pelosi politics, CA will hopefully be an unattractive destination if things degrade in other states horrifically. We may find out what it looks like to achieve herd immunity the fast way.

With the tone of the post, it is almost as if you're rooting for the worst to happen in "fly over" country. Wouldn't you want them to be successful? I certainly hope they are. . . .

I absolutely want people in those states to do well, be safe and be healthy. I have family and friends in many of those states, and I wish them the best by hoping they don’t ruin themselves.

I know you're completely sincere, and I mean that without irony. But you can ruin yourself in all sorts of different ways. The virus is just one of them.

I put this thread together with BC's rather depressing thread on asymptomatic transmission. What's implied is a shutdown of indefinite duration. That won't work. What we have to begin to consider is appropriate social distancing measures in an open economy. Also, I think we have to trust the public to take care of itself. No one is going to go charging back into crowded places, no matter what the ordinance permits.

[Genuine Realist]

I know a few people seem to feel that the lockdowns are doing more harm than good.

And now, the advent of “social distancing deniers”.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/16/us/protes...index.html

People in some states are putting a lot of pressure on their governors to lift the Shelter In Places. It feels like some governors will do just that, maybe in a few weeks, even if adequate testing and contact tracing are not in place to contain things without a Shelter In Place.

I have a feeling this will end very badly for those states, and I’m glad California is not in driving distance of them, plus, with its high cost of living and Nancy Pelosi politics, CA will hopefully be an unattractive destination if things degrade in other states horrifically. We may find out what it looks like to achieve herd immunity the fast way.

With the tone of the post, it is almost as if you're rooting for the worst to happen in "fly over" country. Wouldn't you want them to be successful? I certainly hope they are. . . .

I absolutely want people in those states to do well, be safe and be healthy. I have family and friends in many of those states, and I wish them the best by hoping they don’t ruin themselves.

I know you're completely sincere, and I mean that without irony. But you can ruin yourself in all sorts of different ways. The virus is just one of them.

I put this thread together with BC's rather depressing thread on asymptomatic transmission. What's implied is a shutdown of indefinite duration. That won't work. What we have to begin to consider is appropriate social distancing measures in an open economy. Also, I think we have to trust the public to take care of itself. No one is going to go charging back into crowded places, no matter what the ordinance permits.