[2006alum]

Let me get this straight.  The rest of the country must shut down and shelter in place because this is an extremely contagious virus and lives on surfaces for days.  People living in counties with zero deaths must SiP to stop the spread of Covid-19.   But in the city with the most deaths in the world can merely randomly test the surfaces in its extensive subway system and justify cramming cars with citizens because the tests don't show the virus on surfaces.  Do we need a double blind study to accept that the virus was spread on the subway system?  Add to this sending Covid-19 positive people to nursing homes and you round out the great work of the leaders in New York.

I've been sheltering in place for two months, and the entire time I've been able to get in my car, drive to the grocery store/Costco/Walgreens, etc., visit multiple elderly relatives to drop off supplies and do errands for them. My point is that if you shut down the NYC subway system permanently, that would be like keeping everyone off the roads 24/7. It's like not being allowed to take your car out of your garage. That is the analogy.

And if you read the article you linked to (which you clearly have not), you'd see that most people are just taking the expanded bus service instead, so shutting down the NYC subway just moves the disease vector from the subway to the bus. Not clear to me how much good that accomplishes.

I fully agree that dense cities like NYC are a brobdingnagian challenge, because they're entirely reliant on densely packed public transportation systems to function. But precisely for that reason, NYC would entirely cease to function were the subway permanently shut down, in the same way your town would cease to function no one was allowed to take their car out of their driveway for two months.

[2006alum]

Let me get this straight.  The rest of the country must shut down and shelter in place because this is an extremely contagious virus and lives on surfaces for days.  People living in counties with zero deaths must SiP to stop the spread of Covid-19.   But in the city with the most deaths in the world can merely randomly test the surfaces in its extensive subway system and justify cramming cars with citizens because the tests don't show the virus on surfaces.  Do we need a double blind study to accept that the virus was spread on the subway system?  Add to this sending Covid-19 positive people to nursing homes and you round out the great work of the leaders in New York.

I've been sheltering in place for two months, and the entire time I've been able to get in my car, drive to the grocery store/Costco/Walgreens, etc., visit multiple elderly relatives to drop off supplies and do errands for them. My point is that if you shut down the NYC subway system permanently, that would be like keeping everyone off the roads 24/7. It's like not being allowed to take your car out of your garage. That is the analogy.

And if you read the article you linked to (which you clearly have not), you'd see that most people are just taking the expanded bus service instead, so shutting down the NYC subway just moves the disease vector from the subway to the bus. Not clear to me how much good that accomplishes.

I fully agree that dense cities like NYC are a brobdingnagian challenge, because they're entirely reliant on densely packed public transportation systems to function. But precisely for that reason, NYC would entirely cease to function were the subway permanently shut down, in the same way your town would cease to function no one was allowed to take their car out of their driveway for two months.