06-01-2020, 02:38 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-01-2020, 02:46 PM by BostonCard.)
This thread has the potential for going off the rails really quickly. I don't want to be unsympathetic to people out there who are very hurt by what transpired in Minneapolis and more broadly, but getting into the underlying causes of the protests, rioting, and looting out there is going to take this thread sideways in a hurry.
BC
Funny you mention the Spanish Flu. In context, I understand you to mean that the "elites" of the day in 1918 stood aside and let the flu pandemic spread without implementing any social distancing measures. Not only is that false, but it turns out that the regions of the country where more stringent measures were adopted not only had fewer deaths than those who delayed implementing social distancing measures, but also that those regions did better economically.
I've cited this 2007 paper looking at "nonpharmacological interventions" (AKA social distancing) and the consequences of influenza:
Not only that, but these measures resulted in higher subsequent economic growth:
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail...he-economy
![[Image: 20200404_WOC077.png]](https://www.economist.com/img/b/1280/785/90/sites/default/files/20200404_WOC077.png)
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BC
(06-01-2020, 07:32 AM)Mick Wrote: More to the point, I don’t believe the Elites are right. A century ago, our country not only survived, but thrived against the Spanish Flu.
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/...etters&
Today, our Elites went the other direction. They shipwrecked our economy and claimed it wouldn't matter. They've promised a “V” shaped recovery. That is highly unlikely. Instead, we’ll have an ongoing nightmare of an economy.
Funny you mention the Spanish Flu. In context, I understand you to mean that the "elites" of the day in 1918 stood aside and let the flu pandemic spread without implementing any social distancing measures. Not only is that false, but it turns out that the regions of the country where more stringent measures were adopted not only had fewer deaths than those who delayed implementing social distancing measures, but also that those regions did better economically.
I've cited this 2007 paper looking at "nonpharmacological interventions" (AKA social distancing) and the consequences of influenza:
Quote:Conclusions These findings demonstrate a strong association between early, sustained, and layered application of nonpharmaceutical interventions and mitigating the consequences of the 1918-1919 influenza pandemic in the United States. In planning for future severe influenza pandemics, nonpharmaceutical interventions should be considered for inclusion as companion measures to developing effective vaccines and medications for prophylaxis and treatment.
Not only that, but these measures resulted in higher subsequent economic growth:
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail...he-economy
![[Image: 20200404_WOC077.png]](https://www.economist.com/img/b/1280/785/90/sites/default/files/20200404_WOC077.png)
BC
