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Wait a minute...Your hypothetical counterfactual is just as hypothetical and counterfactual as mine ... The things he DID do were criticized heavily at the time and NONE of the Democrats ever said anything close to "hey, we've got a big problem here Nancy and Adam and Chuck, let's call a halt to this whole impeachment thing and focus on the real problem. 

Whoa, so you're saying the president not paying enough attention, and 130,000 dead, is counterfactual? And that Dems should have called a halt to impeachment? Impeachment was in December, the Senate Trial ended Feb. 5. The catastrophic presidential failure of pandemic leadership started in late February and wasn't serious until his speech to the nation on March 12. The timelines don't match. Dems would have needed a time machine to do what you suggest they should have.

In LSJU’s defense, I think the counter factual that he is pointing out is the idea that a different president, or a different course of action, would have resulted in fewer deaths.  And, to a degree he’s right; I can’t prove that a hypothetical President Clinton would have done any better, or that following a different course of action would have resulted in fewer deaths.

So, it is a fair point.  Then again, at least I was critiquing Trump for what he did/failed to do,  not for what congress hypothetically would have done had Trump done something different.

BC

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Wait a minute...Your hypothetical counterfactual is just as hypothetical and counterfactual as mine ... The things he DID do were criticized heavily at the time and NONE of the Democrats ever said anything close to "hey, we've got a big problem here Nancy and Adam and Chuck, let's call a halt to this whole impeachment thing and focus on the real problem. 

Whoa, so you're saying the president not paying enough attention, and 130,000 dead, is counterfactual? And that Dems should have called a halt to impeachment? Impeachment was in December, the Senate Trial ended Feb. 5. The catastrophic presidential failure of pandemic leadership started in late February and wasn't serious until his speech to the nation on March 12. The timelines don't match. Dems would have needed a time machine to do what you suggest they should have.

In LSJU’s defense, I think the counter factual that he is pointing out is the idea that a different president, or a different course of action, would have resulted in fewer deaths.  And, to a degree he’s right; I can’t prove that a hypothetical President Clinton would have done any better, or that following a different course of action would have resulted in fewer deaths.

So, it is a fair point.  Then again, at least I was critiquing Trump for what he did/failed to do,  not for what congress hypothetically would have done had Trump done something different.

BC