[teejers1]

Could have crushed this pandemic by the end of May if masks/distancing had been observed.  Could be nearly back to normal now.

Totally agree with this part.

What do you guys mean by "nearly back to normal?"  

There might be more things open . . . for a while, anyway . . . but everyone would still have to social distance and wear masks, right?

This is what I don't understand about "crushing the curve" arguments (aside from the fact that the US was so far behind in recognition and response that it wasn't going to happen without even more drastic measures).  

What's the end game of "crushing the curve?"  Everyone back to school with no masks?  Everyone back to bars and indoor dining with no masks?  I don't think that's correct.

You can say "well, we could be doing more stuff with masks."  Okay.  But again, what is the differentiatior for "doing more" or "doing less" - other than we are always not doing "enough" to "do more?"

That's why I always come back to . . . (I'm not even going to say it).  

BTW, you can "do more" now - if you're willing to be responsible and take appropriate action, where necessary.  See ND's dashboard.  56 active cases (550+ recovered) in a student population of 8600+  (.6%).  And no hospitalizations.  So many folks here said going to college in-person is foolhardy, reckless, etc.  Maybe.  And maybe that will prove out.  OTOH, maybe ND will "gut it out" and show folks that you can go to school.  So far, they seem to be doing a pretty good job.  I hope they are able to get through it okay.

[teejers1]

Could have crushed this pandemic by the end of May if masks/distancing had been observed.  Could be nearly back to normal now.

Totally agree with this part.

What do you guys mean by "nearly back to normal?"  

There might be more things open . . . for a while, anyway . . . but everyone would still have to social distance and wear masks, right?

This is what I don't understand about "crushing the curve" arguments (aside from the fact that the US was so far behind in recognition and response that it wasn't going to happen without even more drastic measures).  

What's the end game of "crushing the curve?"  Everyone back to school with no masks?  Everyone back to bars and indoor dining with no masks?  I don't think that's correct.

You can say "well, we could be doing more stuff with masks."  Okay.  But again, what is the differentiatior for "doing more" or "doing less" - other than we are always not doing "enough" to "do more?"

That's why I always come back to . . . (I'm not even going to say it).  

BTW, you can "do more" now - if you're willing to be responsible and take appropriate action, where necessary.  See ND's dashboard.  56 active cases (550+ recovered) in a student population of 8600+  (.6%).  And no hospitalizations.  So many folks here said going to college in-person is foolhardy, reckless, etc.  Maybe.  And maybe that will prove out.  OTOH, maybe ND will "gut it out" and show folks that you can go to school.  So far, they seem to be doing a pretty good job.  I hope they are able to get through it okay.