[Genuine Realist]

[quote="Genuine Realist" pid='293675' dateline='1602966904']
So I would look to the cause for discrepancies elsewhere than better unemployment insurance.

There doesn't have to be just one factor you know.  It could be multi-factorial but still a significant contributor.

What Swedish policy, taken at its best, did do was go straight to the dynamics of social distancing that the US reached far more belatedly. 

*Cough*

Finally, the national obsession with race once again rears its ugly head in terms of distorting the inquiry. Class and labor categories matter a lot more here.

Don't disagree that more data is better and targeted testing by occupations and risk makes sense and is done (e.g., healthcare workers).  However, you ignore there's a very strong overlap in many areas between race and class/labor categories.  Example: the CZI Biohub surveys of particular areas of SF where even within the same neighborhood, infection rates of Latin-X are many multiples of white occupants of the same neighborhood.  This could well be the "household spread" that Goose is hammering at.  Single white techies don't have families where even if one of them is high tech, there's also another person in the household that has a riskier occupation.
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I'm aware of the overlap, but that makes the descent (sic) even more exasperating. Are we talking about differential outcomes that are rooted in racial disparity, or ones in which race is only correlated, and class and occupational status far more important? I think the latter.

Meat packing plants responded for a time by sending workers away, as I recall. Then there was discussion of 'ordering' them to stay open. How such an order would be enforced on individual workers, I have no idea. I'm aware of no legal authority for such action, and I'm not aware that any such action was undertaken.

In any case, the situation in which Covid infected workers stayed on the job and infected others because of the unavailability of worker's leave is in my recollection non-existent. If you are aware of one, I'd be curious.

I don't know where the picture came from. I do know that Sweden instituted relatively strict social distancing measures. What it did not do was shut down the entire country. We shall see how it all works out. It is way too early to write history.

[Genuine Realist]

[quote="Genuine Realist" pid='293675' dateline='1602966904']
So I would look to the cause for discrepancies elsewhere than better unemployment insurance.

There doesn't have to be just one factor you know.  It could be multi-factorial but still a significant contributor.

What Swedish policy, taken at its best, did do was go straight to the dynamics of social distancing that the US reached far more belatedly. 

*Cough*

Finally, the national obsession with race once again rears its ugly head in terms of distorting the inquiry. Class and labor categories matter a lot more here.

Don't disagree that more data is better and targeted testing by occupations and risk makes sense and is done (e.g., healthcare workers).  However, you ignore there's a very strong overlap in many areas between race and class/labor categories.  Example: the CZI Biohub surveys of particular areas of SF where even within the same neighborhood, infection rates of Latin-X are many multiples of white occupants of the same neighborhood.  This could well be the "household spread" that Goose is hammering at.  Single white techies don't have families where even if one of them is high tech, there's also another person in the household that has a riskier occupation.
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I'm aware of the overlap, but that makes the descent (sic) even more exasperating. Are we talking about differential outcomes that are rooted in racial disparity, or ones in which race is only correlated, and class and occupational status far more important? I think the latter.

Meat packing plants responded for a time by sending workers away, as I recall. Then there was discussion of 'ordering' them to stay open. How such an order would be enforced on individual workers, I have no idea. I'm aware of no legal authority for such action, and I'm not aware that any such action was undertaken.

In any case, the situation in which Covid infected workers stayed on the job and infected others because of the unavailability of worker's leave is in my recollection non-existent. If you are aware of one, I'd be curious.

I don't know where the picture came from. I do know that Sweden instituted relatively strict social distancing measures. What it did not do was shut down the entire country. We shall see how it all works out. It is way too early to write history.