11-19-2020, 10:20 AM
(11-19-2020, 09:11 AM)lex24 Wrote:(11-19-2020, 07:23 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: Obviously it doesn't work this way, but getting 19 year old 7-1, freakishly athletic Wiseman and losing soon to be 31 year old 6-6 Klay Thompson, is a trade you make everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.
The Warriors now have a player on which to build the franchise around after Curry and Thompson. It's a little like having Steve Young to take over after Joe Montana, or Aaron Rodgers to replace Brett Favre.
I found it comical that so many were suggesting the W's should trade the pick because Wiseman "only played 3 college games." Anyone with eyes who bothered to see his private workouts, limited appearances in college and all-star games, saw him interviewed, and learned about him, could see he has potentially never seen in the NBA before skills for a 7-1 player. I saw one video of him and couldn't believe he was 7-1, not because he didn't look tall, but because he handled the ball and moved like a Guard. All Wiseman talks about is wanting to learn and get better. He had a 4.0 high school GPA and probably would have been admitted to Stanford. The clincher for me was that he added 20-30 pounds of muscle in his off season. This showed he can become a 250-280 lb. physical force in addition to an athletic one, and that he is a determined hard worker. It's reasonable to project Wiseman developing an outside shot and binge a more athletic and healthier Joel Embiid.
Still, it's understandable why Minnesota took Anthony Edwards. Wiseman was seen as too duplicative to KAT, and LaMelo Ball would have cramped DeAngelo Russell at PG. But I am convinced that if Wiseman played a full college season some team would have blown the T-Wolves away with a can't turn down offer to trade the #1 pick or they might have been convinced to take him themselves. This is why when I started looking at Wiseman a couple months ago, I thought the W's should think about trading up a spot to make certain they got him. You can't not land this kind of prospect when he's there for you to realistically draft. Giving back the #1 they got from Minny in the Russell-Wiggins trade would have been worth it. But now the Warriors have Wiseman and didn't have to give up any asset to get him. Pretty spectacular booby prize after a 15-50 injury-marred season following 5 consecutive Finals appearances.
Building around a center is not today’s NBA. game. Period. He’s athletic. High ceiling. No question. He’s also raw. But the game is built around PG’s and wings.
There is no freaking way I’d trade Thompson perhaps having a career ending injury (Achilles plus ACL is not a good combo) for potential.
Wiseman is so compelling because he is much more than a Center, or what people think of a Center being. Moreover, who isn't "raw" at 19 years old? If Wiseman has a combination of foot quickness and length to defend perimeter wings - which he appears to have based on what I have observed - he can be a dominant defender in a switching defense, and be a great interior shot blocker. He knows how to set screens, a lob dunking machine, and he will be the fastest 7-footer in the NBA, making him lethal in transition. Those are all the things he gives you if he never develops outside shooting ability or a consistent offensive game. We're looking at a 7-1 player who you could conceivably see dribble up the floor, stop and drain a 3-pt shot on one possession, then fake a shot, cross over a defender and drive for a dunk and 1 on the next. How many 7-footers has anyone here seen do that? There is video of him crossing over and driving for a layup in the Jordan Brand Classic and he's better now.
IOW, if Wiseman projected to be what most people think of an NBA Center being, then yes, that isn't the modern NBA. I'm suggesting Wiseman has upside to potentially re-define what the NBA Center position is, and we have no idea what that means for championship contention because we have never seen it before.