[lex24]

They have used athletes and entertainers for  PSA’s forever. There’s nothing new about this. Sorry goose you are not representative of the general public. The  people on this board generally aren’t. And PSA‘s are just that public service announcements. They have to be approved before going forward. 


I get you’re being apalled – I think it’s sad as well that people will listen more to celebrities etc. But the bottom line is a hell of a lot of the public does. So do you want to move forward towards solutions? Or do you want to not do this because it’s “appalling”

As far as PSAs being "approved", could you give me some links and that? A quick google didn't find me any.

Your point regarding "moving forward to solutions" has been discussed forever. Is it better to achieve public "virtue" by manipulating the public or to forgo that option and possibly fail because you actually tried to convince them with facts/logic? Who defines "virtue" or "solutions"? We aren't going to solve this question here and now. FWIW, I think that in the US we have pandered to the public for so long that we now have a public that will latch on to unfounded conspiracy theories if they are presented by a well-known "celebrity". We are getting what we deserve when it becomes a battle of PR and not facts.

However, I would suggest there is a middle ground. A year ago probably not even 1% of the population knew who Tony Fauci was. Now he is at least a minor "celebrity". Do your PSAs with Fauci. Create more younger Fauci types who the public recognizes. Everybody knows who Sanjay Gupta is. We could use a few public figures who actually know something about their business. It works for Generals, why not scientists?

I may be wrong on the “approved”. As for Fauci - again he’s associated with politics.  Goose, who do you think more Americans recognize - LeBron James, Tom Brady, Carrie Underwood, Snoop Dog, Bruce Springsteen, Meryl Streep, Saban or Tony Fauci/Sanjay Gupta.

 I understand your point – and frankly I agree with it to a large extent. It shouldn’t be this way. But it is. And we should be working towards doing everything we can to slow this thing down.  Fine also run them within with Fauci and Gupta as well. We should be running them a lot. But I still say that getting entertainers etc. involved will help. And that more people will take their direction from the list I indicated that they will from Tony Fauci. Is that right? Of course not. But frankly at this stage - I don’t give a damn. I just want to see this thing start to decline.

And the statements they should make ARE based on facts and logic.

[lex24]

They have used athletes and entertainers for  PSA’s forever. There’s nothing new about this. Sorry goose you are not representative of the general public. The  people on this board generally aren’t. And PSA‘s are just that public service announcements. They have to be approved before going forward. 


I get you’re being apalled – I think it’s sad as well that people will listen more to celebrities etc. But the bottom line is a hell of a lot of the public does. So do you want to move forward towards solutions? Or do you want to not do this because it’s “appalling”

As far as PSAs being "approved", could you give me some links and that? A quick google didn't find me any.

Your point regarding "moving forward to solutions" has been discussed forever. Is it better to achieve public "virtue" by manipulating the public or to forgo that option and possibly fail because you actually tried to convince them with facts/logic? Who defines "virtue" or "solutions"? We aren't going to solve this question here and now. FWIW, I think that in the US we have pandered to the public for so long that we now have a public that will latch on to unfounded conspiracy theories if they are presented by a well-known "celebrity". We are getting what we deserve when it becomes a battle of PR and not facts.

However, I would suggest there is a middle ground. A year ago probably not even 1% of the population knew who Tony Fauci was. Now he is at least a minor "celebrity". Do your PSAs with Fauci. Create more younger Fauci types who the public recognizes. Everybody knows who Sanjay Gupta is. We could use a few public figures who actually know something about their business. It works for Generals, why not scientists?

I may be wrong on the “approved”. As for Fauci - again he’s associated with politics.  Goose, who do you think more Americans recognize - LeBron James, Tom Brady, Carrie Underwood, Snoop Dog, Bruce Springsteen, Meryl Streep, Saban or Tony Fauci/Sanjay Gupta.

 I understand your point – and frankly I agree with it to a large extent. It shouldn’t be this way. But it is. And we should be working towards doing everything we can to slow this thing down.  Fine also run them within with Fauci and Gupta as well. We should be running them a lot. But I still say that getting entertainers etc. involved will help. And that more people will take their direction from the list I indicated that they will from Tony Fauci. Is that right? Of course not. But frankly at this stage - I don’t give a damn. I just want to see this thing start to decline.

And the statements they should make ARE based on facts and logic.