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Guys I don't think Shaw is going to be here much longer. It seems like the culture Shaw and Harbaugh built here is oil to the "opt out cultures" water. It iust doesn't mix.

Um, Stanford is oil to the opt out culture. It’s essentially a one way street. Too hard to get in as a transfer. The new rules - recruiting changes and opt outs- hurt Stanford.

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Guys I don't think Shaw is going to be here much longer. It seems like the culture Shaw and Harbaugh built here is oil to the "opt out cultures" water. It iust doesn't mix.

"opt out culture"? Each of the players who has announced his intention to leave will complete their degree before leaving. I would describe the culture in a way that Silicon Valley could recognize - "continuous reinvention."

Shaw has to continue to adapt to an environment where he cannot count on 5th year players. He has to create an environment where players can reach their peak level of contribution within a year or two, not three or four.

Agree.  Completely.

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Like cardcrimson noted, this is a QB-heavy draft. I've seen some mocks (I know, I know) by reputable analysts with SIX QBs going in the first round, and they ain't named Davis Mills. 

I know he lost some weapons. But my goodness, he's started eleven games. He has in no way permeated the national college football consciousness. He doesn't have the tape to warrant a GM taking a risk on him. Just from a pure financial perspective, I don't understand him feeling like he's better positioned to take the leap now vs. after another year. 

When you're hoping to be a late round pick, then how is this the right play? If he comes back, puts down a good year on tape, and he comes out in a less-loaded draft, that's millions more in his pocket and a team that is committed to him as a high pick (leading to more chances, the benefit of the doubt, etc.) rather than a team that isn't invested in him, either financially or in terms of draft capital. 

Little and Adebo? Those decisions make sense. They've shown enough. I can even understand Fehoko, especially since he took a mission. He's 23 with great measurables, and some team is gonna pick him up, probably on Day 2. But Sarell? And now Mills?

Maybe it's just as simple as looking around, seeing who's coming back on offense, and betting that he's not going to be protected well and won't have good enough weapons to improve his stock. And if that's the case, then ok, I guess--I'll know that I don't need to keep my Saturdays free next fall. But gosh, it's hard not to look back at his career and not think of it as anything other than a major disappointment compared to expectations. That couldn't be helped this year, of course, but such is life.

He was hurt. Then got hosed by the Pac-12 in a shortened season.  Still, he showed enough to make it obvious to anyone looking that he’s the most talented QB Stanford has had since Luck.  Excellent arm skills, presence in the pocket, can throw on the run, and while not a dual threat guy, he’s mobile. 

 I wish we saw him more. Personally I expect to see him on Sundays.

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Guys I don't think Shaw is going to be here much longer. It seems like the culture Shaw and Harbaugh built here is oil to the "opt out cultures" water. It iust doesn't mix.

Um, Stanford is oil to the opt out culture. It’s essentially a one way street. Too hard to get in as a transfer. The new rules - recruiting changes and opt outs- hurt Stanford.

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Guys I don't think Shaw is going to be here much longer. It seems like the culture Shaw and Harbaugh built here is oil to the "opt out cultures" water. It iust doesn't mix.

"opt out culture"? Each of the players who has announced his intention to leave will complete their degree before leaving. I would describe the culture in a way that Silicon Valley could recognize - "continuous reinvention."

Shaw has to continue to adapt to an environment where he cannot count on 5th year players. He has to create an environment where players can reach their peak level of contribution within a year or two, not three or four.

Agree.  Completely.

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Like cardcrimson noted, this is a QB-heavy draft. I've seen some mocks (I know, I know) by reputable analysts with SIX QBs going in the first round, and they ain't named Davis Mills. 

I know he lost some weapons. But my goodness, he's started eleven games. He has in no way permeated the national college football consciousness. He doesn't have the tape to warrant a GM taking a risk on him. Just from a pure financial perspective, I don't understand him feeling like he's better positioned to take the leap now vs. after another year. 

When you're hoping to be a late round pick, then how is this the right play? If he comes back, puts down a good year on tape, and he comes out in a less-loaded draft, that's millions more in his pocket and a team that is committed to him as a high pick (leading to more chances, the benefit of the doubt, etc.) rather than a team that isn't invested in him, either financially or in terms of draft capital. 

Little and Adebo? Those decisions make sense. They've shown enough. I can even understand Fehoko, especially since he took a mission. He's 23 with great measurables, and some team is gonna pick him up, probably on Day 2. But Sarell? And now Mills?

Maybe it's just as simple as looking around, seeing who's coming back on offense, and betting that he's not going to be protected well and won't have good enough weapons to improve his stock. And if that's the case, then ok, I guess--I'll know that I don't need to keep my Saturdays free next fall. But gosh, it's hard not to look back at his career and not think of it as anything other than a major disappointment compared to expectations. That couldn't be helped this year, of course, but such is life.

He was hurt. Then got hosed by the Pac-12 in a shortened season.  Still, he showed enough to make it obvious to anyone looking that he’s the most talented QB Stanford has had since Luck.  Excellent arm skills, presence in the pocket, can throw on the run, and while not a dual threat guy, he’s mobile. 

 I wish we saw him more. Personally I expect to see him on Sundays.