(01-02-2021, 04:05 PM)gailtate Wrote:(01-02-2021, 04:00 PM)lex24 Wrote:(01-02-2021, 03:17 PM)cardcrimson Wrote: Wonder what it’d be like to have your top assistants courted and hired away every year.
1. Wonder what it would be like to be Football Royalty? Perhaps the most storied College Football program.
2. Wonder what it would be like to play in a region where College Football is King. And high school football is h u g e.
3. Wonder what it would be like to have no recruiting impediments - silly things such as academics.
4. Wonder what it would be like to have the possibility to play in front of 100,000 every game in a normal year?
5. Wonder what it would be like to be able to focus recruiting in a region of the country that has by far the most talent; and then snip off the top talent elsewhere.
6. Wonder what it would be like to have the number 1 recruiting class essentially every year, and play every single game with more talent than your opponent.
7. Wonder what it would be like to have your best receiver get hurt; and your No 2 receiver gets the Hiseman.
Sounds like it'd be pretty cool.
Yep. It would. But then you’d have to root for Bama......
(01-02-2021, 05:45 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(01-02-2021, 04:00 PM)lex24 Wrote:(01-02-2021, 03:17 PM)cardcrimson Wrote: Wonder what it’d be like to have your top assistants courted and hired away every year.
1. Wonder what it would be like to be Football Royalty? Perhaps the most storied College Football program.
2. Wonder what it would be like to play in a region where College Football is King. And high school football is h u g e.
3. Wonder what it would be like to have no recruiting impediments - silly things such as academics.
4. Wonder what it would be like to have the possibility to play in front of 100,000 every game in a normal year?
5. Wonder what it would be like to be able to focus recruiting in a region of the country that has by far the most talent; and then snip off the top talent elsewhere.
6. Wonder what it would be like to have the number 1 recruiting class essentially every year, and play every single game with more talent than your opponent.
7. Wonder what it would be like to have your best receiver get hurt; and your No 2 receiver gets the Hiseman.
Royalty? When Saban took over, Alabama was mediocre, posting a 67-54 record for the decade prior, with four patsies a year and only two bowl wins. Oh, and probation, too. . . .
Like him or not, he's built a juggernaut. Recruits the best talent, recruits the best coaches, who coach up the best talent and make them NFL ready. As an example, look at Najee's story--kid stuck around for another year to get his degree. Personally, too much like Belichek for my tastes, but both get it done (and don't run their trap like Dabo and Urban).
Saban is an excellent coach. Not suggesting otherwise. Being at Alabama he also has advantages others don’t. Simple as that.
(01-02-2021, 10:48 PM)teejers1 Wrote:(01-02-2021, 10:36 PM)Snorlax94 Wrote: Like I have said before, when someone keeps changing the subject to heap unending adulation on the same person and place over and over again it just comes off as kind of desperate and oddly defensive given the claims. I have never met a Cardinal or Crimson alum who talks, defends and adores like this. It is such a curious outlier, and has been so to me pretty much from the outset. I’m not saying any claims are untrue — I know all kinds of people with all kinds of backstories. I’m just saying the end result is, at the least, noteworthy and atypical, and gives me a litte smile.
What are "the claims?"
This whole thread is confusing.
What's so hard to understand about Saban building a juggernaut and doing things Stanford doesn't do - or even try to do, as far as I can tell. You know, like work really hard on the recruiting trail, hire the best assistants - even if they are independent thinkers who will not submit to . . . whatever it is Shaw thinks he has built here, etc.
Yeah, Stanford is not Alabama and never will be (though 2010 was pretty close).
Agreed.
Does that mean we should not try and get better (i.e., emulate those who do it best)?
Not sure I understand what the supposed debate is here.
Simple: Using Alabama football as some sort of benchmark or comparison to Stanford football is as foolhardy as Alabama using Stanford institutionally and /or academically as a benchmark or comparison. They are different universes.
That’s all. It doesn’t mean Stanford can’t and shouldn’t do better - recruiting and otherwise.