[CTcard]

Here's the  average commit's Rivals star ratings for each Stanford class going back to 2002, ordered from best to worst in terms of national ranking:

3.93--2017 (3rd)
3.73--2012 (4th)
3.45--2014 (14th)
3.33--2013 (17th)
3.32--2011 (17th)
3.35--2020 (18th)
3.27--2009 (20th)
3.27--2015 (20th)
3.16--2016 (23rd)
3.24--2019 (25th)
3.06--2002 (26th)
3.2--2018 (27th)
3.14--2010 (28th)
2.88--2005 (29th)
2.58--2004 (35th)
2.77--2003 (41st)
2.71--2008 (45th)
2.94--2021 (48th)
2.63--2007 (49th)
2.44--2006 (56th)

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I'm trying to establish a sense of reasonable expectations. Three Rose Bowls in four years is unsustainable and 4-8 is unacceptable. But based on recent history, while the goal is always a Pac-12 championship, 9 wins and a top 20 ranking is a solid benchmark.

- I have been under the impression that the recruit scores have skewed over time. Yet, the correlation between average recruit score and ranking is remarkably strong.
- Nine of the top ten have been since 2011.
- I am not quite sure how one would use this to set expectations overall. Presumably, if you think the team should be better, you would also think the recruiting should be better.
- The not very well rated 2008 class included: Andrew Luck, Chris Owusu, Jonathan Martin, Chase Thomas, Delano Howell, David DeCastro, Michael Thomas, Warren Reuland, Sam Schwartzenstein, Johnson Bademosi. Possibly the most important class in the emergence of Stanford football as a national power (for that matter, probably true solely for Andrew Luck).

On the flip side, no test scores were required for admission this year. That should of helped us expand our pool.  No test scores are required next year as well.

Presumably that doesn't mean there are no admissions criteria or evaluations. That should only expand the pool if top football players are better students than test takers.

[CTcard]

Here's the  average commit's Rivals star ratings for each Stanford class going back to 2002, ordered from best to worst in terms of national ranking:

3.93--2017 (3rd)
3.73--2012 (4th)
3.45--2014 (14th)
3.33--2013 (17th)
3.32--2011 (17th)
3.35--2020 (18th)
3.27--2009 (20th)
3.27--2015 (20th)
3.16--2016 (23rd)
3.24--2019 (25th)
3.06--2002 (26th)
3.2--2018 (27th)
3.14--2010 (28th)
2.88--2005 (29th)
2.58--2004 (35th)
2.77--2003 (41st)
2.71--2008 (45th)
2.94--2021 (48th)
2.63--2007 (49th)
2.44--2006 (56th)

...
I'm trying to establish a sense of reasonable expectations. Three Rose Bowls in four years is unsustainable and 4-8 is unacceptable. But based on recent history, while the goal is always a Pac-12 championship, 9 wins and a top 20 ranking is a solid benchmark.

- I have been under the impression that the recruit scores have skewed over time. Yet, the correlation between average recruit score and ranking is remarkably strong.
- Nine of the top ten have been since 2011.
- I am not quite sure how one would use this to set expectations overall. Presumably, if you think the team should be better, you would also think the recruiting should be better.
- The not very well rated 2008 class included: Andrew Luck, Chris Owusu, Jonathan Martin, Chase Thomas, Delano Howell, David DeCastro, Michael Thomas, Warren Reuland, Sam Schwartzenstein, Johnson Bademosi. Possibly the most important class in the emergence of Stanford football as a national power (for that matter, probably true solely for Andrew Luck).

On the flip side, no test scores were required for admission this year. That should of helped us expand our pool.  No test scores are required next year as well.

Presumably that doesn't mean there are no admissions criteria or evaluations. That should only expand the pool if top football players are better students than test takers.