[Mick]

[quote="donkey687" pid='307205' dateline='1613080169']
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This link put the mean Stanford SAT score at 1500, compared to 1470 at Notre Dame, 1440 at USC, 1430 at Michigan, 1420 at Berkeley, 1400 at UCLA.  I would bet dollars to donuts that our football players average SAT scores are more than 30 points higher than the Domers, more than 60 points higher than SC's, more than 80 points higher than Cal's, and more than 100 points higher than those at UCLA (if someone has the data, please let me know where I can find it).  If my assumptions are true, then the gap between students and football players is higher at those schools than at Stanford, and the quoted statement is wrong.

BC

One large correction here BC, 
$C plays games with their reported scores/grades and admits large groups of kids (many are legacy) after a one semester or one year deferment so that they don't count (read pull down) their reported SAT scores.   There is also a well known path here in the Bay Area, where kids not admitted to SC after high school go to schools like SMU or Colorado for a year and then they transfer into SC.  We know kids that even rushed a specific sorority in Boulder based on the house they wanted at $C.   Usc only reports their incoming freshman class scores/grades to try and help them look more competitive.  Yes, they have improved, but come on.  I can't speak to the other schools, but this doesn't surprise me regarding $C and their lack of institutional control....Cheat-on!

Sounds familiar.  A student from my son's high school went that route.  Spring matriculant at USC, now an MBA student at UMichigan's Ross School.

On the other side of the spectrum, my cousin attended USC for one year.  Made Dean's List both years, couldn't stand it, transferred to Reed College.

[Mick]

[quote="donkey687" pid='307205' dateline='1613080169']
2)

This link put the mean Stanford SAT score at 1500, compared to 1470 at Notre Dame, 1440 at USC, 1430 at Michigan, 1420 at Berkeley, 1400 at UCLA.  I would bet dollars to donuts that our football players average SAT scores are more than 30 points higher than the Domers, more than 60 points higher than SC's, more than 80 points higher than Cal's, and more than 100 points higher than those at UCLA (if someone has the data, please let me know where I can find it).  If my assumptions are true, then the gap between students and football players is higher at those schools than at Stanford, and the quoted statement is wrong.

BC

One large correction here BC, 
$C plays games with their reported scores/grades and admits large groups of kids (many are legacy) after a one semester or one year deferment so that they don't count (read pull down) their reported SAT scores.   There is also a well known path here in the Bay Area, where kids not admitted to SC after high school go to schools like SMU or Colorado for a year and then they transfer into SC.  We know kids that even rushed a specific sorority in Boulder based on the house they wanted at $C.   Usc only reports their incoming freshman class scores/grades to try and help them look more competitive.  Yes, they have improved, but come on.  I can't speak to the other schools, but this doesn't surprise me regarding $C and their lack of institutional control....Cheat-on!

Sounds familiar.  A student from my son's high school went that route.  Spring matriculant at USC, now an MBA student at UMichigan's Ross School.

On the other side of the spectrum, my cousin attended USC for one year.  Made Dean's List both years, couldn't stand it, transferred to Reed College.