[OutsiderFan]

Outsider, are you equating Haase following Dawkins to Shaw following Harbaugh? If not, please clarify.

Not really. I'm saying some people are pointing to Tinkle's record - after taking over worst program in conference - to take away from his accomplishments this season. If you are going to do that, then you can't credit David Shaw for what he did after taking over Harbaugh's Stanford program.  

Personally, I think Tinkle's record doesn't reflect his ability, like Kyle Shanahan's doesn't. They are both a little too early to judge. Shaw is a little more difficult to assess because his 2015 and 2017 seasons were 5 and 7 years after Harbaugh, and those were upper echelon performances.

Not to go down rabbit hole, but my belief is David Shaw is a great program leader who is too loyal to coaches and not willing to make himself uncomfortable to enable growth.

[OutsiderFan]

Outsider, are you equating Haase following Dawkins to Shaw following Harbaugh? If not, please clarify.

Not really. I'm saying some people are pointing to Tinkle's record - after taking over worst program in conference - to take away from his accomplishments this season. If you are going to do that, then you can't credit David Shaw for what he did after taking over Harbaugh's Stanford program.  

Personally, I think Tinkle's record doesn't reflect his ability, like Kyle Shanahan's doesn't. They are both a little too early to judge. Shaw is a little more difficult to assess because his 2015 and 2017 seasons were 5 and 7 years after Harbaugh, and those were upper echelon performances.

Not to go down rabbit hole, but my belief is David Shaw is a great program leader who is too loyal to coaches and not willing to make himself uncomfortable to enable growth.