[gailtate]

I suppose it depends on one's definition of elite level, but I guess I'm in the "will not cop to it" category. I haven't given up 100% on Haase at Stanford. But I'd be fine with regular trips to the NCAA tournament and the occasional Sweet Sixteen. Your standards may be higher.

So, may I ask: at what point WOULD you "give up"? BTW, after following Stanford hoops, more or less closely, since the Dallmar days, I would not claim standards any higher than a trip to the dance every other year. Wish I could see some kind of evidence that this was realistic right now. I don't.

[gailtate]

I suppose it depends on one's definition of elite level, but I guess I'm in the "will not cop to it" category. I haven't given up 100% on Haase at Stanford. But I'd be fine with regular trips to the NCAA tournament and the occasional Sweet Sixteen. Your standards may be higher.

So, may I ask: at what point WOULD you "give up"? BTW, after following Stanford hoops, more or less closely, since the Dallmar days, I would not claim standards any higher than a trip to the dance every other year. Wish I could see some kind of evidence that this was realistic right now. I don't.