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I said it cost us a MAXIMUM of one game this time. I don't know whether the result would have been different if McKee had played the whole game. I doubt it, but it's possible.


This has nothing to do with West's prior starts.



Shaw's prior bad decisions on QB cost us multiple games.

I read "The other two times it cost multiple games" to be "the other two times that Shaw started West".

You might be right about 2012 (we lost 20-13 at Notre Dame and 17-13 at Washington, both games where QB play sucked).  Then again, right before the Notre Dame game, Nunes posted this line against Arizona: 21/34 (62%), 360 yards (10.6 ypa), 2 TD, 0 INT PER of 170 in a game we won 54-48.  Would Hogan have won that game for us?

Similar situation in the Burns to Chryst transition.  We lost 10-5 against Colorado in a miserable game for Burns, but would Chryst have beaten K State?

BC

Sorry for the confusion.

I meant the other two times Shaw stupidly picked the veteran over the better player. Or was it three other times?

So, you know for a fact that Hogan was ready week one in ‘12. Wow.  Amazing. How?  I’ll answer that.  You have no clue.  But of course, they ran the table once he started. So certainly they would have been undefeated had he only started week one.  Right?  Sure. I mean, how can one prove otherwise.  It’s great to be able to have such clarity…..

Obviously I don't know how Hogan looked in practice. I actually think its reasonable that Nunes looked better then Hogan under controlled practice settings. Where Hogan shined was as a "gamer," making things happen during games under non-ideal conditions, especially when he first took over. 

The situation with Mckee and West actually reminds me a lot of Hogan/Nunes. One is the more experienced, west coast, short throw kinda guy who is more deliberate, often to his detriment. The other is raw, but clearly has "it" in that he is a gamer who is unafraid to sling the ball and make things happen.  Clearly Mckee is the way to go, but like Nunes/Hogan I wouldn't be surprised if that quality wasn't readily apparent in practice settings.

[gocard14]

I said it cost us a MAXIMUM of one game this time. I don't know whether the result would have been different if McKee had played the whole game. I doubt it, but it's possible.


This has nothing to do with West's prior starts.



Shaw's prior bad decisions on QB cost us multiple games.

I read "The other two times it cost multiple games" to be "the other two times that Shaw started West".

You might be right about 2012 (we lost 20-13 at Notre Dame and 17-13 at Washington, both games where QB play sucked).  Then again, right before the Notre Dame game, Nunes posted this line against Arizona: 21/34 (62%), 360 yards (10.6 ypa), 2 TD, 0 INT PER of 170 in a game we won 54-48.  Would Hogan have won that game for us?

Similar situation in the Burns to Chryst transition.  We lost 10-5 against Colorado in a miserable game for Burns, but would Chryst have beaten K State?

BC

Sorry for the confusion.

I meant the other two times Shaw stupidly picked the veteran over the better player. Or was it three other times?

So, you know for a fact that Hogan was ready week one in ‘12. Wow.  Amazing. How?  I’ll answer that.  You have no clue.  But of course, they ran the table once he started. So certainly they would have been undefeated had he only started week one.  Right?  Sure. I mean, how can one prove otherwise.  It’s great to be able to have such clarity…..

Obviously I don't know how Hogan looked in practice. I actually think its reasonable that Nunes looked better then Hogan under controlled practice settings. Where Hogan shined was as a "gamer," making things happen during games under non-ideal conditions, especially when he first took over. 

The situation with Mckee and West actually reminds me a lot of Hogan/Nunes. One is the more experienced, west coast, short throw kinda guy who is more deliberate, often to his detriment. The other is raw, but clearly has "it" in that he is a gamer who is unafraid to sling the ball and make things happen.  Clearly Mckee is the way to go, but like Nunes/Hogan I wouldn't be surprised if that quality wasn't readily apparent in practice settings.