[CowboyIndian]

There's a straight line between (a) the generic, vanilla S&C program Stanford evidently runs today in the absence of Turley and (b) the decline of the larger football program. Anybody who will not (or cannot) see this is a Mr. Magoo.

As I recall, there were a great number of injuries in Turley's next-to-last and last years as well. I know that doesn't resonate with your view but that's what I remember.

[CowboyIndian]

There's a straight line between (a) the generic, vanilla S&C program Stanford evidently runs today in the absence of Turley and (b) the decline of the larger football program. Anybody who will not (or cannot) see this is a Mr. Magoo.

As I recall, there were a great number of injuries in Turley's next-to-last and last years as well. I know that doesn't resonate with your view but that's what I remember.