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There's a straight line between (a) the generic, vanilla S&C program Stanford evidently runs today in the absence of Turley and (b) the decline of the larger football program. Anybody who will not (or cannot) see this is a Mr. Magoo.

As I recall, there were a great number of injuries in Turley's next-to-last and last years as well. I know that doesn't resonate with your view but that's what I remember.

Point well taken. Still, Turley's absence, IMHO, has not helped to mitigate the steady and very apparent erosion of talent elsewhere in the program. My  gripe has been and continues to be simply this: what Shaw inherited has not been restored or replenished. For the sake of his legacy, he must reverse what's trending right now. If he doesn't, he will be forever be known as the guy who took what he inherited from his predecessor on to unprecedented heights -- before riding it straight into the ground.

[gailtate]

There's a straight line between (a) the generic, vanilla S&C program Stanford evidently runs today in the absence of Turley and (b) the decline of the larger football program. Anybody who will not (or cannot) see this is a Mr. Magoo.

As I recall, there were a great number of injuries in Turley's next-to-last and last years as well. I know that doesn't resonate with your view but that's what I remember.

Point well taken. Still, Turley's absence, IMHO, has not helped to mitigate the steady and very apparent erosion of talent elsewhere in the program. My  gripe has been and continues to be simply this: what Shaw inherited has not been restored or replenished. For the sake of his legacy, he must reverse what's trending right now. If he doesn't, he will be forever be known as the guy who took what he inherited from his predecessor on to unprecedented heights -- before riding it straight into the ground.