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I am torn about Coach Haase. He's personable and a straight shooter. I like him personally. He recruits with the same energy and hustle with which he played. Stanford has had good players on his teams. Stanford has had a 1st team All P12 player each of his 5 years - Reid Travis in 2017 and 2018, KZ Okpala in 2019 and Oscar Da Silva in 2020 and 2021. 

But we have not seen the results. One season in 5 with a winning record in conference. One season in 5 with a postseason game. Stanford has lost in the 1st round of the P12 tournament 4 of his 5 seasons. It's been really frustrating.

A key reason for lack of success - shooting. With one or two exceptions, Stanford has been a bad 3 point shooting team for years.

Also the guard play has been sloppy. Too many turnovers, not enough assists.

I think that Stanford is no better than a .500 team again this year. If we see improvement in the guard play, shooting, and end of season play, I might feel better about the result than in years past. I don't see Stanford getting much better either. They are fighting with one hand behind their back because they don't really play in the transfer game. They will be in rebuilding mode every year relying on frosh while P12 opponents will be retooling with juniors and seniors who started (maybe even at an All Conference level) for other schools before transferring.

100% with you Spiny. I would love for Haase to succeed, but the results simply haven't been there. Injuries yes, but even if you give him a complete punt on last season (which I don't - he lost the locker room), the whole has been consistently less than the sum of the parts. This season is probably the lowest talent level of any roster other than maybe his first season, due to graduations/transfers/one-and-dones. Some of those are on Haase for mishandling things last season.

I was so positive about Haase when he was hired. Looked and sounded like a great fit. It just hasn't worked out that way. I'll be watching on TV this season and rooting, but I'm not paying money to watch this team and I don't have high expectations. I hope Haase does well in his next job.

[winflop]

I am torn about Coach Haase. He's personable and a straight shooter. I like him personally. He recruits with the same energy and hustle with which he played. Stanford has had good players on his teams. Stanford has had a 1st team All P12 player each of his 5 years - Reid Travis in 2017 and 2018, KZ Okpala in 2019 and Oscar Da Silva in 2020 and 2021. 

But we have not seen the results. One season in 5 with a winning record in conference. One season in 5 with a postseason game. Stanford has lost in the 1st round of the P12 tournament 4 of his 5 seasons. It's been really frustrating.

A key reason for lack of success - shooting. With one or two exceptions, Stanford has been a bad 3 point shooting team for years.

Also the guard play has been sloppy. Too many turnovers, not enough assists.

I think that Stanford is no better than a .500 team again this year. If we see improvement in the guard play, shooting, and end of season play, I might feel better about the result than in years past. I don't see Stanford getting much better either. They are fighting with one hand behind their back because they don't really play in the transfer game. They will be in rebuilding mode every year relying on frosh while P12 opponents will be retooling with juniors and seniors who started (maybe even at an All Conference level) for other schools before transferring.

100% with you Spiny. I would love for Haase to succeed, but the results simply haven't been there. Injuries yes, but even if you give him a complete punt on last season (which I don't - he lost the locker room), the whole has been consistently less than the sum of the parts. This season is probably the lowest talent level of any roster other than maybe his first season, due to graduations/transfers/one-and-dones. Some of those are on Haase for mishandling things last season.

I was so positive about Haase when he was hired. Looked and sounded like a great fit. It just hasn't worked out that way. I'll be watching on TV this season and rooting, but I'm not paying money to watch this team and I don't have high expectations. I hope Haase does well in his next job.