[Goose]

Okay, just a yes or no then, do you think a Harbaugh led college football team would fall to the depths Stanford has under Shaw?

I am not BC, but I will jump in here anyway. No, Harbaugh wouldn't fall that low because when things got pear shaped enough he would do something stupid and get fired. His conduct rubs people the wrong way at times. He does not deal with adversity calmly. That will catch up to a coach if he has a few 6-6 type seasons, so he would be long gone before he went 3-9. As it is, 2020 almost got him. Some thought he would be let go at that point.

Nice evasion.

Harbaugh's record as a college head coach:

USD:

7-4
11-1
11-1

Stanford:

4-8
5-7
8-5
12-1

Michigan:

10-3
10-3
8-5
10-3
9-4
2-4
12-1 (In CFP, still game(s) left).

What leads you to believe that Harbaugh would have "a few 6-6 type seasons" leading to him getting canned?
Respectfully, in your insistence on not wanting to denigrate Shaw - especially in comparison to Harbs (which is understandable) - you're reaching . . . for anything.

First of all, this question is about Harbaugh, not Shaw. How I answer a question about Harbaugh says nothing at all about Shaw, good, bad, or otherwise. This answer compares Harbaugh to nobody, not Shaw, not Kiffen, not Elway. It is about JH. I evaded nothing. I answered the question. Period.
Second, what makes me think Harbaugh would get canned after a couple of 6-6 seasons was somewhat clear (I thought) in my answer. He almost got canned over the 2-4 in 2020, but COVID probably saved him. They fired Brady Hoke after 7-6 5-7. Harbaugh rubs some people the wrong way, as I said. He won't get much sympathy based on his personality. He also has a history of making remarks that could be considered objectionable. Put those facts together and I think it probable he would be gone.
As BC pointed out, he has made many changes in staff while searching for the formula to beat tOSU. Up until this year, those changes didn't work real well. He had continuing very good but not great results. He was looking for an answer, and appeared to be flailing around a bit. He stayed at Michigan by taking a brobdingnagian pay cut in 2021, going from an 8M base salary down to about 4.1M plus incentives. That shows he wasn't getting any mulligans.
I happen to think Jim Harbaugh is a pretty good coach. I also think he is willing to try things to improve his team. Sometimes, things you try don't work out and you go 6-6. So far, that hasn't happened to him, but it could. JH has also used EUTM to build closely knit teams that played hard and perhaps better than they objectively were at times. He created an "Us against the world" ethos, and coupled that with "We get no respect". That can work great if the players buy in. He certainly did that at Stanford when he first arrived, and he did the same at the 49ers. When he came to Michigan, he couldn't really do that, because they weren't terrible. They were just not as good as they needed to be. He has had some ups and downs at Michigan but he has basically hung in there.
In 2020 the wheels kind of came off. That was bad, but the pundits predicted his team would finish 4th in the East and they question the competence of the offense, which was worse. Harbaugh had been moving to a "speed in space" approach, but this years team simply didn't have the athletes to do that. To his credit, he looked at what he had and realized the previous approach wasn't viable this year. He needed to adapt to the actual players he had, not the ones he wished he had. However, he now could build his "band of brothers", and he did. Please read
https://michigan.rivals.com/news/column-...ip-heights
Harbaugh is a good coach partly because he can take advantage of situations like this. Has he "turned the program around"? Perhaps. Will he now dominate tOSU? Maybe, but reading the article makes one think it is a serendipity. If he can sustain the ethos, it may work for a while. After, who knows?

[Goose]

Okay, just a yes or no then, do you think a Harbaugh led college football team would fall to the depths Stanford has under Shaw?

I am not BC, but I will jump in here anyway. No, Harbaugh wouldn't fall that low because when things got pear shaped enough he would do something stupid and get fired. His conduct rubs people the wrong way at times. He does not deal with adversity calmly. That will catch up to a coach if he has a few 6-6 type seasons, so he would be long gone before he went 3-9. As it is, 2020 almost got him. Some thought he would be let go at that point.

Nice evasion.

Harbaugh's record as a college head coach:

USD:

7-4
11-1
11-1

Stanford:

4-8
5-7
8-5
12-1

Michigan:

10-3
10-3
8-5
10-3
9-4
2-4
12-1 (In CFP, still game(s) left).

What leads you to believe that Harbaugh would have "a few 6-6 type seasons" leading to him getting canned?
Respectfully, in your insistence on not wanting to denigrate Shaw - especially in comparison to Harbs (which is understandable) - you're reaching . . . for anything.

First of all, this question is about Harbaugh, not Shaw. How I answer a question about Harbaugh says nothing at all about Shaw, good, bad, or otherwise. This answer compares Harbaugh to nobody, not Shaw, not Kiffen, not Elway. It is about JH. I evaded nothing. I answered the question. Period.
Second, what makes me think Harbaugh would get canned after a couple of 6-6 seasons was somewhat clear (I thought) in my answer. He almost got canned over the 2-4 in 2020, but COVID probably saved him. They fired Brady Hoke after 7-6 5-7. Harbaugh rubs some people the wrong way, as I said. He won't get much sympathy based on his personality. He also has a history of making remarks that could be considered objectionable. Put those facts together and I think it probable he would be gone.
As BC pointed out, he has made many changes in staff while searching for the formula to beat tOSU. Up until this year, those changes didn't work real well. He had continuing very good but not great results. He was looking for an answer, and appeared to be flailing around a bit. He stayed at Michigan by taking a brobdingnagian pay cut in 2021, going from an 8M base salary down to about 4.1M plus incentives. That shows he wasn't getting any mulligans.
I happen to think Jim Harbaugh is a pretty good coach. I also think he is willing to try things to improve his team. Sometimes, things you try don't work out and you go 6-6. So far, that hasn't happened to him, but it could. JH has also used EUTM to build closely knit teams that played hard and perhaps better than they objectively were at times. He created an "Us against the world" ethos, and coupled that with "We get no respect". That can work great if the players buy in. He certainly did that at Stanford when he first arrived, and he did the same at the 49ers. When he came to Michigan, he couldn't really do that, because they weren't terrible. They were just not as good as they needed to be. He has had some ups and downs at Michigan but he has basically hung in there.
In 2020 the wheels kind of came off. That was bad, but the pundits predicted his team would finish 4th in the East and they question the competence of the offense, which was worse. Harbaugh had been moving to a "speed in space" approach, but this years team simply didn't have the athletes to do that. To his credit, he looked at what he had and realized the previous approach wasn't viable this year. He needed to adapt to the actual players he had, not the ones he wished he had. However, he now could build his "band of brothers", and he did. Please read
https://michigan.rivals.com/news/column-...ip-heights
Harbaugh is a good coach partly because he can take advantage of situations like this. Has he "turned the program around"? Perhaps. Will he now dominate tOSU? Maybe, but reading the article makes one think it is a serendipity. If he can sustain the ethos, it may work for a while. After, who knows?