[Genuine Realist]

Elementary school NIL contracts?
Contracts to (say) tall, athletic potential parents?

Endless possibilities for NIL contracts, let see how about one for my English Black Labrador Retriever for starts, in lieu of cash he will settle for a Kirk's hamburger with cheese, hold the onions.

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A California High School QB signed NIL contract for $8 Million for 4 years.  His name is Nico Lameleava, he will be attending Tennessee.  What happens if a college player with a NIL contract decides he/she is worth more $$$ and tells the marketing agency if their contract is not adjusted they will not play in the up coming league championship game, or the next SEC body bag game?   If the marketing agency says no, the player response is "Transfer Portal here I come"..........so who out bids who?   Add in the sports gambling folks and the Mafia what more big time college sports ask for?

This has already happened to a degree. Florida State starting CB sat out Spring Practice looking for a better NIL deal.
https://brobible.com/sports/article/flor...-hold-out/

This is one step away from the situation Maple Leaf imagines. Imagine Bryce Young telling Nick Saban he's transferring to LSU unless he gets a better NIL deal this Summer. There is nothing to keep this from happening. Literally every college athlete is a free agent now.

Any top rated QB like a Bryce Young will/should insist that the NIL insures a first round left tackle plus three or four all American left tackles sitting on the bench as backups are or will be on the roster when fall practice starts.

Before that parade of those horrible straw men really gets going, let's slow down a little. Take a deep breath and reset to zero.

1. That star qb might hold out for a better NIL before the championship game? Indeed he might. So might an NFL quarterback. Or an NBA star. Or an MLB starting pitcher. But they never seem to do that, do they? Put it down to basic human instinct, keeping promises - but also to a sense that to betray the fanbase in that fashion is to kill the goose that laid the golden egg - the devotion of the fanbase. But if you are going to speculate on an act of legalized extortion that has not occurred in more than a century, it is much LESS likely with an NIL performer than a professional athlete because . . . 

2.  . . .  unlike professional salaries, which rest on a dependable cash flow from ticket sales, media rights and the like, NIL revenue depends solely on the willingness of a group of fans to purchase memorabilia or endorsed products from an athlete who brought them good memories. That's it. The school keeps the ticket and media revenue, and it doesn't pay players. So a deal maker can only rely on the good will of that fan base.

Which is why my hunch about that eight-million-dollar contract for a 17 year old qb candidate is that it is so much press agent malarkey - a blue sky projection dressed up as a guarantee. You really think anyone is going to guarantee that much money to a player who may never set foot on the field for Tennessee, due to injury or losing out to a better player? The only way you can profit is by gross sales in excess of the guarantee, plus cost, and that is completely up in the air at this point in time. The negative about NIL is the same as the positive - it depends on the enthusiasm of the fanbase. That only takes you so far.

3. Reading the entire article about the FSU defensive back, it's apparent he's a very confused kid, maybe experiencing a break of some sort, whom I wish well. The NIL issue is basically a speculation.

I don't wish to minimize the seriousness of the challenge. Right now, the Kentucky fanbase, the BBN, as it is called, is rallying around Oscar Tshiebwe, the unanimous NCAA player of the year. There are rumors of a line of sportswear, and of course endorsements. Tshiebwe is a terrific college player, but something of an NBA tweener, protected as a second round draft choice. The NIL money might easily exceed the NBA prospects, meaning he's better off to complete his eligibility. It's also the case that the BBN, which has to be experienced to be believed. supports all Kentucky players. An incoming freshman probably can expect a cash flow. But we are talking about tens of thousands of dollars in that case, not pie-in-the-sky superstar numbers.

So Tshiebwe, the unanimous player of the year, profiting from his achievement, is somehow ugly? Why? Not hardly. Tshiebwe is another kid with a mess of dependent relatives, and more power to him, particularly since the NBA is iffy.

4. The real issue, as stated above, is competitive balance. I don't begrudge any kid, or anyone, money fairly earned. But there is no way a Stanford or even a Notre Dame, can compete with a school with an SEC fanbase (or even Michigan or tOSU). They're just too big. Unless something happens, you can forget about an Elway or Andrew Luck enrolling at Stanford. True, they won't do that well the first year - but start at Alabama, Georgia, Texas, or what not, and seven figure NIL deals are extremely plausible as upperclassmen. Who says no to that? The elite education won't run away - you can always enroll when your career is done. And you will enroll as a well to do man, maybe even financially secure.

The solution, laid out above, is for the NCAA to stand clear and let athletes' contract with pro franchises be compensated directly for their athletic potential. With all but a very few, pro money dwarfs NIL potential, so that the choice of school can be made on the basis of where an 18-year-old fits best. If Elway is already signed and bonused by the Denver Broncos, unless he is exceptionally avaricious, the NIL money will be largely immaterial.

In any case, the NCAA trying to prohibit an athlete from exploiting commercially what he owns is never going to happen. Candidly, it was these restrictions themselves that are ugly. The only way to go is forward.

[Genuine Realist]

Elementary school NIL contracts?
Contracts to (say) tall, athletic potential parents?

Endless possibilities for NIL contracts, let see how about one for my English Black Labrador Retriever for starts, in lieu of cash he will settle for a Kirk's hamburger with cheese, hold the onions.

---

A California High School QB signed NIL contract for $8 Million for 4 years.  His name is Nico Lameleava, he will be attending Tennessee.  What happens if a college player with a NIL contract decides he/she is worth more $$$ and tells the marketing agency if their contract is not adjusted they will not play in the up coming league championship game, or the next SEC body bag game?   If the marketing agency says no, the player response is "Transfer Portal here I come"..........so who out bids who?   Add in the sports gambling folks and the Mafia what more big time college sports ask for?

This has already happened to a degree. Florida State starting CB sat out Spring Practice looking for a better NIL deal.
https://brobible.com/sports/article/flor...-hold-out/

This is one step away from the situation Maple Leaf imagines. Imagine Bryce Young telling Nick Saban he's transferring to LSU unless he gets a better NIL deal this Summer. There is nothing to keep this from happening. Literally every college athlete is a free agent now.

Any top rated QB like a Bryce Young will/should insist that the NIL insures a first round left tackle plus three or four all American left tackles sitting on the bench as backups are or will be on the roster when fall practice starts.

Before that parade of those horrible straw men really gets going, let's slow down a little. Take a deep breath and reset to zero.

1. That star qb might hold out for a better NIL before the championship game? Indeed he might. So might an NFL quarterback. Or an NBA star. Or an MLB starting pitcher. But they never seem to do that, do they? Put it down to basic human instinct, keeping promises - but also to a sense that to betray the fanbase in that fashion is to kill the goose that laid the golden egg - the devotion of the fanbase. But if you are going to speculate on an act of legalized extortion that has not occurred in more than a century, it is much LESS likely with an NIL performer than a professional athlete because . . . 

2.  . . .  unlike professional salaries, which rest on a dependable cash flow from ticket sales, media rights and the like, NIL revenue depends solely on the willingness of a group of fans to purchase memorabilia or endorsed products from an athlete who brought them good memories. That's it. The school keeps the ticket and media revenue, and it doesn't pay players. So a deal maker can only rely on the good will of that fan base.

Which is why my hunch about that eight-million-dollar contract for a 17 year old qb candidate is that it is so much press agent malarkey - a blue sky projection dressed up as a guarantee. You really think anyone is going to guarantee that much money to a player who may never set foot on the field for Tennessee, due to injury or losing out to a better player? The only way you can profit is by gross sales in excess of the guarantee, plus cost, and that is completely up in the air at this point in time. The negative about NIL is the same as the positive - it depends on the enthusiasm of the fanbase. That only takes you so far.

3. Reading the entire article about the FSU defensive back, it's apparent he's a very confused kid, maybe experiencing a break of some sort, whom I wish well. The NIL issue is basically a speculation.

I don't wish to minimize the seriousness of the challenge. Right now, the Kentucky fanbase, the BBN, as it is called, is rallying around Oscar Tshiebwe, the unanimous NCAA player of the year. There are rumors of a line of sportswear, and of course endorsements. Tshiebwe is a terrific college player, but something of an NBA tweener, protected as a second round draft choice. The NIL money might easily exceed the NBA prospects, meaning he's better off to complete his eligibility. It's also the case that the BBN, which has to be experienced to be believed. supports all Kentucky players. An incoming freshman probably can expect a cash flow. But we are talking about tens of thousands of dollars in that case, not pie-in-the-sky superstar numbers.

So Tshiebwe, the unanimous player of the year, profiting from his achievement, is somehow ugly? Why? Not hardly. Tshiebwe is another kid with a mess of dependent relatives, and more power to him, particularly since the NBA is iffy.

4. The real issue, as stated above, is competitive balance. I don't begrudge any kid, or anyone, money fairly earned. But there is no way a Stanford or even a Notre Dame, can compete with a school with an SEC fanbase (or even Michigan or tOSU). They're just too big. Unless something happens, you can forget about an Elway or Andrew Luck enrolling at Stanford. True, they won't do that well the first year - but start at Alabama, Georgia, Texas, or what not, and seven figure NIL deals are extremely plausible as upperclassmen. Who says no to that? The elite education won't run away - you can always enroll when your career is done. And you will enroll as a well to do man, maybe even financially secure.

The solution, laid out above, is for the NCAA to stand clear and let athletes' contract with pro franchises be compensated directly for their athletic potential. With all but a very few, pro money dwarfs NIL potential, so that the choice of school can be made on the basis of where an 18-year-old fits best. If Elway is already signed and bonused by the Denver Broncos, unless he is exceptionally avaricious, the NIL money will be largely immaterial.

In any case, the NCAA trying to prohibit an athlete from exploiting commercially what he owns is never going to happen. Candidly, it was these restrictions themselves that are ugly. The only way to go is forward.