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It's uglier than you imagined: NIL

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05-03-2022, 11:31 AM

(05-03-2022, 11:11 AM)Genuine Realist Wrote: There were a few posts above that discussed the North Carolina scandal.

To me, the NCAA dithering reflected complete confusion as to what its actual mission is. It's death on someone giving a kid a free Coke, but can't get it together when it comes to cheating athletes out of the educational opportunity that is the whole point.

I am not defending the NCAA, but how did North Carolina cheat the athletes out of an educational opportunity? The athletes could have taken other classes. They could have even turned in North Carolina for giving credit for work not done. The athletes were part of the problem too. The NCAA didn't punish North Carolina because ostensibly these same academic improprieties were available to all students. That is a problem for the accreditation groups. Unfortunately, they too did nothing.

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05-03-2022, 11:31 AM

(05-03-2022, 11:11 AM)Genuine Realist Wrote: There were a few posts above that discussed the North Carolina scandal.

To me, the NCAA dithering reflected complete confusion as to what its actual mission is. It's death on someone giving a kid a free Coke, but can't get it together when it comes to cheating athletes out of the educational opportunity that is the whole point.

I am not defending the NCAA, but how did North Carolina cheat the athletes out of an educational opportunity? The athletes could have taken other classes. They could have even turned in North Carolina for giving credit for work not done. The athletes were part of the problem too. The NCAA didn't punish North Carolina because ostensibly these same academic improprieties were available to all students. That is a problem for the accreditation groups. Unfortunately, they too did nothing.

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