08-08-2022, 07:58 AM
(06-02-2022, 10:00 PM)Goose Wrote:(06-01-2022, 09:04 PM)2006alum Wrote: Oddly, I would have the opposite reaction of Goose. I'm almost certain I would have told my parents about any potential pending disciplinary incidents -- by choice -- because I found them to be helpful fonts of life advice. But I would never, ever sign up for a default system to automatically notify a parent of anything. I am probably a dying breed among millennials, but I would never want my parents defaulted into knowing my grades, what classes I was talking, or what my medical or disciplinary history is. And call me really old fashioned, but in my view, in loco parentis ends when someone turns 18 and is a legal adult. (Though I realize Google et al. still treat people in their 30s like they're too incapable even to do their own laundry.)Interestingly enough, in the mid-60s at Stanford the in loco parentis argument was played out big time. At the time, women had to sign in and out of their dorms. In theory, people under 21 who drank on campus got expelled. The University pretty much could control student's behavior, or so they believed. It didn't matter if you were 18 or 22. Things didn't actually work that way, and the student body basically set out to overturn in loco parentis. We basically did that. Undergraduates drank with impunity, hours were abolished, and students were pretty much responsible for their own welfare. There was no Provost of Drug and Alcohol Policy. There were no id badges required and the doors of the dorms were not locked. In the spring like now, they were usually propped open. However, if an RA though somebody was a danger to themselves or others, said RA would do what he though was necessary, including informing the parents. We looked out for each other. It was not a perfect system, but it mostly worked. IMHO it was a lot more effective and humane than the current system at Stanford, where the rules are so byzantine nobody can understand them.
Then again, I guess what's the harm in yet another helicopter parent policy?
I realize today is a different world. The legalities and liability of the University for what went on when I was at Stanford would never work today. I also wouldn't want my parents "snooping" on my activities. However, I think most people would sign up for a "reasonable" program by the University. You parents don't need to know your grades or what classes you are taking, but is you are about to get kicked out of school I expect you would be well served if they knew that. Ditto if my RA thinks I am suicidal. That is why I think most people would grant permission to allow the University to share that kind of information, because nobody expects that will happen to them when they sign the paper. If the University doesn't have a history of abusing the program, why not?
I was apparently a bit before you, late 50's early 60's but the booze rule was indeed theory but not practice. Guys down the hall in Stern brewed their own beer in the room all year and no one seemed to care. The RA was usually missing in action and rarely seen and never opened his door. We all managed to graduate, and many of us received commissions into the armed forces. I had a lot of fun during those years and learned a lot too. We were pretty much allowed to finish growing up on our own.
