[OutsiderFan]

Here's some observations from the Cal board on Stanford Football, in a thread lamenting the Stojakovic commitment...

I don't know as much about the basketball side, but I've begun to formulate a theory on Stanford recruiting, at least as it pertains to football.

I watched their game on Saturday, and I've watched most of their games this season. And look, both Cal and Stanford are bad football teams. But Cal plays hard. Stanford does not. They have a ton more talent than we do and more than most teams in the league, but their players just do not care. They loaf, they don't run on defense. It would be very frustrating to watch if I didn't enjoy it so much.

There is the saying, made famous by Cardale Jones "I aint come to play school", but all of these Stanford kids are literally going to play school. I think Stanford has cornered the market on recruits who are academically motivated and very good at HS sports but don't actually care that much about athletics. I am no longer super concerned about Stanford having good recruiting classes because basically if a kid can choose between going to Stanford or USC or Alabama or whatever to play football and they choose Stanford, I know they don't really care about football and probably won't be that good. I think this is David Shaw being an elitist douche who went to the school I wish I had gotten into and can't smell his own shit. Harbaugh knew how to recruit tough kids. Shaw welcomes them to the country club.

[OutsiderFan]

Here's some observations from the Cal board on Stanford Football, in a thread lamenting the Stojakovic commitment...

I don't know as much about the basketball side, but I've begun to formulate a theory on Stanford recruiting, at least as it pertains to football.

I watched their game on Saturday, and I've watched most of their games this season. And look, both Cal and Stanford are bad football teams. But Cal plays hard. Stanford does not. They have a ton more talent than we do and more than most teams in the league, but their players just do not care. They loaf, they don't run on defense. It would be very frustrating to watch if I didn't enjoy it so much.

There is the saying, made famous by Cardale Jones "I aint come to play school", but all of these Stanford kids are literally going to play school. I think Stanford has cornered the market on recruits who are academically motivated and very good at HS sports but don't actually care that much about athletics. I am no longer super concerned about Stanford having good recruiting classes because basically if a kid can choose between going to Stanford or USC or Alabama or whatever to play football and they choose Stanford, I know they don't really care about football and probably won't be that good. I think this is David Shaw being an elitist douche who went to the school I wish I had gotten into and can't smell his own shit. Harbaugh knew how to recruit tough kids. Shaw welcomes them to the country club.