[SamuelMcF]

It should be a clear sign of the program's troubles that all of the 2022 captains eligible to return to the team are leaving - Damuni, Nugent, McKee, Miezan and McGill.

Stanford's talent level next season could be the equivalent of a pro sports expansion team. And without the benefit of any high draft picks or free agents.

Crazy thought here but couldn't it be the case that contrary to the prevailing opinion on this board, a lot of players, particularly captains, actually loved playing for Shaw and the prior staff despite the losses and have no interest in sticking around to be coached by a new staff that they have no relationships with???

We've had exoduses like this one for the past 3 years. Why is this one different? Have you considered that players aren't leaving because Shaw is, rather that Shaw left because the players were leaving?

"No interest in sticking around?" Definitely.

[SamuelMcF]

It should be a clear sign of the program's troubles that all of the 2022 captains eligible to return to the team are leaving - Damuni, Nugent, McKee, Miezan and McGill.

Stanford's talent level next season could be the equivalent of a pro sports expansion team. And without the benefit of any high draft picks or free agents.

Crazy thought here but couldn't it be the case that contrary to the prevailing opinion on this board, a lot of players, particularly captains, actually loved playing for Shaw and the prior staff despite the losses and have no interest in sticking around to be coached by a new staff that they have no relationships with???

We've had exoduses like this one for the past 3 years. Why is this one different? Have you considered that players aren't leaving because Shaw is, rather that Shaw left because the players were leaving?

"No interest in sticking around?" Definitely.