[82lsju]

Even more importantly, the idea of remaining for a fifth year needs to be possible. The coaches need to identify players they may want to keep early on and inform them of the potential benefits of staying. The players then need to establish an academic path that gives them a chance at going to graduate school/co-terminal at Stanford. IMO postponing graduation by not pursuing a path to graduate in 4 years will be very unpopular with the players (who need to keep their options open) and even more unpopular (to the point of forbidding it) with the administration. Possibly some kind of double major situation may work for both groups, but the coaches (and players) can't ignore this issue.

This is just "how it is" at Stanford. You can develop programs to keep the players, but even best case, it won't always work. One can talk about the idea that the players themselves aren't "serious" about football if the chose to leave. However, even that idea is difficult to defend. Many players leaving after year 4 are going elsewhere because it allows them to play football in what they believe is a better situation for them. They may be correct in many cases. Doesn't mean they don't care about football (but often does mean they didn't get into graduate school at Stanford :-). It is also possible to be "serious" about football and also "serious" about other things. At Stanford, that probably is more of a problem than elsewhere. The coaches ignore this at their peril. They need to keep recruiting their players all 4 years. That is just a fact.

after four years a player will likely have completed 16 academic quarters (assuming summer before their frosh class enrolls and summers each year), to stay under 180 units they would need to average 11.25 or fewer units a quarter (even if they take only one five units class each summer they would still need to average 13.3 or fewer units a quarter in the other quarters).  If they enroll the Jan before their frosh year then they could have 18 academic quarters after four years, to stay under 180 units they would need to average 10 units or fewer per quarter (even if they took only one five unit class each summer they would still need to average 11.4 units or fewer units per quarter in the other quarters) .  Either of these paths is probably going to end up putting players on and off of academic notice which is not going to go over well with the University.

see more on academic progress, notice and suspensions here

https://advising.stanford.edu/current-st...c-progress

[82lsju]

Even more importantly, the idea of remaining for a fifth year needs to be possible. The coaches need to identify players they may want to keep early on and inform them of the potential benefits of staying. The players then need to establish an academic path that gives them a chance at going to graduate school/co-terminal at Stanford. IMO postponing graduation by not pursuing a path to graduate in 4 years will be very unpopular with the players (who need to keep their options open) and even more unpopular (to the point of forbidding it) with the administration. Possibly some kind of double major situation may work for both groups, but the coaches (and players) can't ignore this issue.

This is just "how it is" at Stanford. You can develop programs to keep the players, but even best case, it won't always work. One can talk about the idea that the players themselves aren't "serious" about football if the chose to leave. However, even that idea is difficult to defend. Many players leaving after year 4 are going elsewhere because it allows them to play football in what they believe is a better situation for them. They may be correct in many cases. Doesn't mean they don't care about football (but often does mean they didn't get into graduate school at Stanford :-). It is also possible to be "serious" about football and also "serious" about other things. At Stanford, that probably is more of a problem than elsewhere. The coaches ignore this at their peril. They need to keep recruiting their players all 4 years. That is just a fact.

after four years a player will likely have completed 16 academic quarters (assuming summer before their frosh class enrolls and summers each year), to stay under 180 units they would need to average 11.25 or fewer units a quarter (even if they take only one five units class each summer they would still need to average 13.3 or fewer units a quarter in the other quarters).  If they enroll the Jan before their frosh year then they could have 18 academic quarters after four years, to stay under 180 units they would need to average 10 units or fewer per quarter (even if they took only one five unit class each summer they would still need to average 11.4 units or fewer units per quarter in the other quarters) .  Either of these paths is probably going to end up putting players on and off of academic notice which is not going to go over well with the University.

see more on academic progress, notice and suspensions here

https://advising.stanford.edu/current-st...c-progress